Comment on EV Batteries Are Dangerous to Repair. Here’s Why Mechanics Are Doing So Anyway
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months agoFirst of all, find me a corvette that blew a motor under 100,000 miles without being abused to hell first.
Second your trying to compare a sports car tesla with all its speed unlocks to some sorts of all wheel drive sport car with an automatic tranny? I’m talking more about common cars for getting around in like a Camry compared to a tesla model 3.
Also to that effect, 95% of the time if you change the oil in a camry every 7,000 miles and the transmission pan fluid every 50,000 miles the motor and transmission will last over 300,000 miles. If the engine does blow you can get a new one installed for $5000. If the tranny goes out it will cost you $2,500. When the battery of a model 3 goes out, which is guaranteed regardless of how well its cared for due to its chemistry, a battery swap will cost you $16,000. Double the cost of a motor and tranny.
You spout the same misinformed nonsense as half of everyone here. You don’t know how things work. You don’t know battery chemistry. You don’t know how to make your own repairs. You still try to have an opinion. Save it and stick my name to it. All of you people are going to start figuring this out over the next five years when the junk yards start filling up now that mass produced EV"s have been in production on a large scale as the earlier ones approach 15 to 20 years old.
NAK@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You can buy a model 3 that goes 0-60 in 3.1 seconds, right now, on their website under 40k after tax rebate. Go look. Under existing inventory. All prices exclude the 7500 credit.
Are you claiming GM never made a lemon? That no cat, ever, in the history of their company, was sold with a bad motor?
And stop it. You’re comparing the cost of a new battery now vs where the cost of a used battery will be in 8 years. Claiming that technology doesn’t get cheaper is absurd. You can buy a used Nissan leaf battery for $370.
www.partrequest.com/catalog/…/nissan-leaf
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
Dude. You obviously don’t know how a used or refurbished ev battery entails (it’s a terrible option) and a Honda leaf has an 85 mile range. It’s a small battery (why they’re cheaper. It’s less battery) and you can replace it without ripping the car apart. An 85 mile range is a replacement for almost no one. Model 3 is the most sold ev in the US. Go educate yourself on what it actually takes to replace That battery. FYI- it’s a 1,060 pound battery. You have to pull the back seats, disconnect it, raise the car up on a lift, drain the coolant, disconnect the lines, use a special jack setup to support and lower it (its across the entire bottom of the vehicle between the front and rear wheels) and then raise the new one up in its place. You can “man handle” a little leaf battery. The model 3 will cost you $20,000 between battery and labor.
Also, who cares how fast your car can do 0 to 60? Are you 17 and think it’s cool?
RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Cole, shut the fuck up. You’re what we call a shade-tree mechanic, and a particularly weak one at that.
What was the lack of understanding you showed last time, something along the lines of “show me a battery you can get more than 1200 cycles from” and when I pointed out that you didn’t understand the definition of a charge cycle, you just… Vanished.
What’s a charge cycle, sloth thoughts? Is it what a battery in the lab, going 0 to 100% to 0 does to determine longevity? Is the more realistic 95-45% a “cycle” or only part of one?
Is losing 75 miles of capacity on a 220mi battery after 12 years on a car unacceptable? Aw poor genius, I guess you don’t remember how shitty gas engines run after about 2-300k miles. Meanwhile your electric car has gone a minimum 300k miles (250mi x 1200 cycles) and are still able to accelerate with full power and efficiency.
As I said before, people like you are why we have professional engineer licenses, lest the pubic believe a charlatan lowlife such as yourself.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
You think you won at something in an old string because I stopped replying to your dumbass nonsense? A cycle is a complete discharge and charge, BTW.
Also, ice engines run great beyond 200k miles. They don’t “get worse” like EV’s do. I own two vehicles at my house right now that have 230k on one and 239k on the other. They don’t burn oil and they still get the rated mpg. Ice engines don’t wear out and start getting shitty as miles go up until they have a major failure like a rod go out or a blown head gasket seal. Sorry you never knew how to take care of a vehicle.