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pelespirit@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

that account’s instance only syncs it with Threads

Which could still be millions?

Unless I missed something, they’re not. I’m pretty sure they haven’t commented on the topic whatsoever.

LMAO, I don’t think you missed something. There sure are a LOT of people that really want meta here with no benefits listed and only vague reasons why the other is wrong, that sound a lot like sway techniques. There are a few libertarians too, but mostly the first one.

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Corgana@startrek.website ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Which could still be millions?

AFAIK, there is only one Threads.net

no benefits

I hate and don’t trust Meta, so the main benefit for me would be the ability to follow Threads users from my nonprofit, ad free, tracker free, Mastodon account I already have. I don’t want an account with Meta.

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- pelespirit@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  I hate and don’t trust Meta, so the main benefit for me would be the ability to follow Threads users from my nonprofit, ad free, tracker free, Mastodon account I already have. I don’t want an account with Meta.
  
  That is the first actual benefit I’ve seen, lol. I won’t be following any threads users, so it wouldn’t be a benefit. I also don’t know a single soul that is a threads user either.
  
  AFAIK, there is only one Threads.net
  
  That’s not how it works. When you’re federated together, you get a copy of every post on your server. Someone else said that that can be avoided, but I doubt threads will do anything in the other instance’s favor unless they get something out of it.
  
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  - Corgana@startrek.website ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    When you’re federated together, you get a copy of every post on your server.
    
    Nope. Only followed accounts, and only toots made after the first user starts following it.
    
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    pelespirit@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Right, we’re agreeing. That could still be millions even if the 160 million isn’t true.
    
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ShittyKopper@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Which could still be millions?

sharedInbox handles this.

mastodon.social sends a single federation activity to www.threads.net’s sharedInbox. threads’s internal systems handle all the visibility and routing to followed users and whatnot. the same thing happens in the opposite direction for threads->mastodon (or whoever).

now in theory this is an optional part of the specification and you can in fact send one activity per person if you really want to, but considering how widespread it is you’d have to be intentionally and explicitly malicious to not use a sharedInbox if the remote server indicates it supports it.

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- pelespirit@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You know a lot about the infrastructure of activity pub.
  
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  - ShittyKopper@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    no, not really.
    
    i have attempted to build my own federated stuff (none of them actually federated “in real life” though) so i did read the specs but quite a lot of these are from my memory and if there’s anything i know is that my memory fuckin sucks lol
    
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    pelespirit@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I think you’re sincere about wanting to federate. I don’t agree at all and I think you’re being naive about them trying to take over, there is a shit ton of astroturfing going on in these threads, but wanting the fediverse to grow isn’t a bad thing…
    
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