Comment on Reddit moderator rebellion: AI moderation is part of the solution

• cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  And Apollo/Christian could have swallowed that reality and altered the product so he didn’t have to shut it all down wholsesale, no?

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  • hypnicjerk@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    the short answer is that only a few apps were willing to play ball, and reddit corp was able to walk back their initial (untenable) terms to a point where they could keep those apps afloat.

    the long answer is that during the course of these ‘negotiations’, huffman publicly libeled the shit out of christian which forced christian to defend himself against the accusations by releasing recordings, and none of this is conducive to a healthy working relationship. neither christian nor huffman have any desire to work with one another at this point, so they don’t.

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    • cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      See I get that then. That makes me way more sympathetic to Christian but his 'tude towards Voyager was still distasteful. He shouldn’thave said anything at all if he didn’t want that introduced into the narrative/record

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      • hypnicjerk@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        i don’t know what he had to say about/toward voyager, personally. ‘the record’ as far as anyone who’s paid attention is concerned is pretty clear about who’s in the right and who’s a libelous, manipulative fuckwad.

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  • DriftingDeep@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I imagine there were 2 primary reasons, one financial, one personal:

    Number of heavy users (including a lot of mods) would’ve forced Christian to implement an open-ended cost model based on individual usage, or raise rates across the board to compensate, making it ultimately cost-prohibitive for the average user, and/or

    Not wanting to communicate (by folding) such a change was okay. To move to a blanket cost model is to basically admit that you’re okay with and accept the changes.

    Some might say it was pure stubbornness and greed, or conclude his decision was a bad one. That’s its own topic for debate I guess.

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    • cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I honestly don’t care anymore, like I’ve found a way to a more moderate understanding of everything and I ** definitely**don’t want him to violate his own principles and boundaries just so I can have my shiny little toy I want aha.

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  • Aatube@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It was doable, but a bit hard and Christian didn’t want to answer to the whims of Reddit anymore apparently

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    • cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I understand and can respect that perspective in that case, altho his comments about Voyager are kinda offputting in that context. Like someone continued your legacy in a way you should be smiling upon but it seems like ego and mean-spirit with that guy in this context.

      Like, I was super offput by it

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      • Aatube@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Hmm, what did Christian say about voyager?

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