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You seriously need to get out of that bubble. If product exists, that means there’s a market demand for it. By your own statement world is filled with infinitely rich companies which throw R&D resources on new products and constantly flopping and not turning profit, which is really not the case. People certainly bought MP3 players and tablets before Apple made their own version. iPod was popular but unattainable to most of the countries with poor economy and it’s not like people didn’t listen to music until Apple came along to save us all.

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thecrotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
What bubble? The iPod was an enormous cultural phenomenom that brought mp3 players into the mainstream. Nobody’s ever heard of the saehan mpman, even though it predated the iPod for years, because it was bought by a few thousand early adopters.

This guy hates apple so much he’s trying to convince me they’re not financially successful lmao

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- sir_reginald@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  What your arguments probe is that Apple had a better marketing team and brand recognition (due to iMac) than the manufacturers who were there before.
  
  Yeah, Apple was financially successful, but not due to innovation. Just good marketing.
  
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  - thecrotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    So you’re strawmanning me, basically. I said they created a market. I said that because it’s true. I never said a damn thing about how they created the market, in fact I went to great lengths to point out that all of these devices existed before apple created theira. You’re so desperate to rant about fanboys that you inserted opinions into my post that weren’t there.
    
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    sir_reginald@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    You’re so desperate to rant about fanboys that you inserted opinions into my post that weren’t there.
    
    Firstly, I’m not desperate and I didn’t mention fanboys anywhere, so you made up that. My comment wasn’t even a rant.
    
    And I didn’t insert any opinion. You said Apple created the market, that before the MP3 nobody wanted a mp3.
    
    Here’s the deal, bro. Fanboys and haters are equally annoying. I can’t imagine how empty your life must be to have such strong opinions about a fucking phone.
    
    What are you talking about? It was my response to you. And I didn’t even show strong opinion, just said that Apple’s financial success was due to marketing and brand recognition, not innovation. That’s not an strong opinion, nor hating and it is not even talking bad about Apple.
    
    Lastly, I kept myself on topic while you made personal attacks against me and my “empty” life. Who’s the one with the strong opinion here, huh?
    
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