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Preemptive defeding I think is bad. You can’t convince people to move to better options if you never have a chance to interact with them in the first place. Obviously there may be reason to defed in the future but to do it prematurely is a mistake that will isolate the fediverse in a way that is uninviting to new people unfamiliar with the space.

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Frog-Brawler@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Federating with an entity that is publicly traded and has shareholders to answer to surely has a goal of endless profit growth - that’s the nature of capitalism. The current spirit of the fediverse is one not driven by profits. What we have now will very likely change into something that doesn’t resemble our current experience once it’s engulfed by Meta.

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Uranium3006@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
they're up to no good, we all know that. weather it's EEE or something else

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admin@lemmy.my-box.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
As long as they’re federated, they can track your movements. The fediverse doesn’t need Meta to be successful. And if it can somehow gain benefit from it, that will then become a weakness that Meta will exploit.

It’s not a question of if meta will fuck the fediverse over, but how and when. Pre-emptive defederation is the best way to mitigate those effects. You’ve seen their track record, the time of “benefit of the doubt” is long gone.

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squiblet@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Okay, good. I'd like to stay isolated from Meta's users.

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Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
We don’t need to convince anyone to do anything. The network effect is what matters - the larger the network, the more useful it is, which makes social media a natural monopoly. The way we beat them is by having a more robust network that doesn’t enshittify and retains users long term. Eventually people will realise that Threads is worse because most of the rest of the network has excluded them. They’ll find their way here.

We can defederate for any reason. If people don’t like it, they can go elsewhere, but if that means they’re joining a smaller, shittier network, well, I guess that means they’ve chosen the less popular option. It’s up to them.

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