Comment on Dear server admins, please defederate threads.net. Dear users, ask your server admin to defederate threads.net.

• pelespirit@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  From a previous comment of mine:

  To be clear, I want it to be users deciding on Lemmy too. Also, people already here moving to threads wouldn’t be the problem, we’re small in comparison to them. It would be a few things:

  • They would bring in a huge party of users that would take it over and overwhelm the current users. It would be like a cruise ship of tourists taking over a small town and breaking everything for the current residents.
  • They could post to Lemmy, but we can’t really post to Mastodon. They’re going to send ads our way disguised as content, guaranteed.
  • If they can manipulate the users from Mastodon, it’s going to get out of hand fast. They have teams of devs and psych engineering to accomplish that.
  • This is volunteer ran, do we have enough energy to fight Meta when they try to enforce something?
  • Can they manipulate Activity Pub software because we’re a small team of devs? If they can, they will.
  • One person mentioned them having instance owners sign NDAs. What’s up with that?

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  • Meowoem@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It doesn’t benefit them to send adds disguised because they are paid to provide ad impressions which they wouldn’t have data for. It’s just an annoying business model not a conspiracy to brainwash you.

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    • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nah, companies did it on reddit all the time, it’s a thing.

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      • Meowoem@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s why you need Nord VPN so you can play raid shadow legends safely…

        The thing is they have so much less control if they do that, I’m fed up of places with adverts where comments are turned off or heavily moderate - if their post comes here they can’t do any of that, I say we let them come, we let them come and then we smash them

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• rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They may be overwhelmed by visitors from Threads and then Meta pulls out and they’ll all leave.

  People who would register on normal instances or threads would only use Threads because of being lazy and then be lazy after Meta pulls out.

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  • HKayn@dormi.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    People who would register on normal instances or threads would only use Threads because of being lazy and then be lazy after Meta pulls out.

    Isn’t this already the case? I find it unlikely for someone to find Lemmy without having developed a dislike for platforms owned by big corpos.

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    • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      … And then they can use it through Threads, and over time forget something and move to Threads, and then oops. Such things happen. Humans are not principle-driven nor should they be.

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      • HKayn@dormi.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I think you misunderstood me. I’m saying that whenever someone finds out about Lemmy, it’s because they’ve already sworn off Facebook, Reddit and other big platforms.

        Do you think such a person will go back to a Facebook-owned platform just because it happens to federate?

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  • Corgana@startrek.website ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If they become overwhelming, admins can defed same as anywhere else. But whats the argument for doing so preemptively?

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    • el_eh_chase@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m fairly new to the fediverse, but I see it this way. If Threads integrates with the Fediverse then users will become accustomed to the content from Threads, which could cause more friction in the future if there’s a movement to defederate from Threads. I think it would just be easier to avoid all that in the first place. I also feel like if anyone really wants to see Threads content they could make an account there, and then everyone gets what they want. Then there’s all the downsides others are theorizing could happen, but they can’t be comfirmed until Threads actually joins the Fediverse.

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    • ttmrichter@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You say this as if people haven’t been eloquently arguing for defederating from Threads preemptively since motherfucking APRIL.

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      • Corgana@startrek.website ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No haha I know I just have yet to hear why it would help

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