Comment on One of the best features of lemmy is that it lets you see individual upvote / downvote counts

TWeaK@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• otter@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t think it’s possible to do on Lemmy without complete structural changes and possibly abandoning activityPub & federation altogether

  You can even check who upvoted what with enough work

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  • TWeaK@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah lemmy is vulnerable to vote manipulation at its core, and there’s virtually nothing anyone can do about it. All the more reason not to care about vote scores, imo.

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    • samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The less vote scores matter, the more likely to be accurate they are because there’s no motivation to bother manipulating them.

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    • otter@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s harder to implement things that will influence the psychology of the user and their behaviors (ex. Hiding vote counts for some time, fuzzing the specific values)

      But it’s also easier to catch bad actors. If you can see who voted on what, you can more easily catch vote manipulation, brigading, or bad faith downvoting

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      • TWeaK@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Nah you can’t really trace vote manipulation, because someone manipulating votes can work across multiple instances while admin can only supervise their own instance. They could develop a network of trust (ie user data sharing) between instances, but that would undermine the principles of federation. Even with such a network, there would always be an inherent trust needed for small instances to take part.

        Like I say, the best solution is to just accept that internet points don’t really matter.

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