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What do you want from me? Those algorithms are proprietary. A few select people in the world know what exactly they’re doing and which data gets stored how in the databases. We can make assumptions by their behaviour. From time to time something gets leaked and we learn some details. We used to learn how the google pagerank algorithm works in university. Now google suggests me what to read and i just swallow that. And you keep making apologies and deny you can be / are being manipulated…?!

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SCB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I think it’s a pretty huge logical stretch to assume I am manipulated because I know algorithms don’t have a profile on me you can just look up. That’s not how data science works at all.

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- rufus@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  
  to assume I am manipulated
  
  what exactly do you think targeted advertising is? and by looking at the revenue of big tech, do you think it succeeds at that?
  
  I know algorithms don’t have a profile on me
  
  we already established they do.
  
  algorithm designers aren’t specifically supervillains
  
  Watch something like “the social dilemma”. why do YOU think silicon valley hires psychologists for app design? Do you think it’s ethical to try and get people addicted to your product?
  
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  - SCB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I’m sure it succeeds at times. There’s a lot of dumb people. However, I don’t see how that’s an algorithm’s fault and not the dumb person’s fault.
    
    “The social dilemma” is absurd conspiracy shit lmao. C’mon man don’t tell me you believed that shit. Wait til you discover “A Funny Thing Happened On The Way to the Moon”
    
    I’m not gonna debunk the whole show (I’ll link one instead) but they hire psychologists because they’re pursuing engagement. I have no issue with that. Psychologists work a lot of jobs you wouldn’t expect. Psychology (and Philosophy) are actually strong undergrads for people who want Finance careers too.
    
    Debunk: …medium.com/why-the-social-dilemma-is-wrong-17d8b…
    
    And another if you can’t get past the above paywall: cbc.ca/…/netflix-social-dilemma-tech-1.5740351
    
    Talk about being manipulated, my dude.
    
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    rufus@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I’m not sure what kind of background you have. Sure that movie is complex things ‘dumbed down’. It’s a movie.
    
    What’s the difference between your “pursuing engagement” and my “get people addicted”. Fact is they carefully design apps to make them engaging. Play a tiktok video just in the right moment to keep you scrolling. sometimes even videos you dislike to invoke feelings. invent karma to keep you invested in your account. fine tune gameification to give rewards to your brain in exactly the right moments to keep you either engaged or buy in-game currency.
    
    There’s a lot of dumb people.
    
    And lots of the psychological tricks and methods are designed to be subtle enough to go unnoticed and not interfere.
    
    And what about all the other arguments?
    
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