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• SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Every country had systemically killed off minorities.

  Did I say talk about countries or governments? Keep it on topic

  If you can’t, then Communism does not necessitate genocide.

  Again, I don’t support transphobia, I just so happen to support communism which is a form of fascism which historically has systematically slaughtered transgendered people :)

  Fuck you fascist.

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  • Cowbee@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ah, you’re a troll, checks out. For your information, the Weimar Republic was a failing Social Democracy that led to Nazi Germany, which was responsible for the Holocaust. Even Social Democracy isn’t a perfectly innocent system, nor can anyone truthfully say that unrelated systems necessitate the presence of each other.

    I support collective ownership of the Means of Production, which will eventually lead to a Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society. I don’t particularly subscribe to any flavor of leftism, as each country will get there a different way. Decentralization, equality, and Democracy are critical to human happiness, which will necessitate trans liberation. To call me transphobic is projection.

    All in all, you’re nothing more than a troll who believes tools have mystical qualities that necessitate genocide if people share them. You can’t actually logically prove this point so you dodge and resort to calling me a transphobic fascist, despite being the opposite.

    There’s no use in continuing this convo, you asked me to be civil and yet you immediately out yourself as a troll and spew slander.

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    • SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ah, you’re a troll, checks out

      Lost a convo -> ah you’re a troll haha. Classic dodge.

      Weimar Republic was a failing Social Democracy that led to Nazi Germany, which was responsible for the Holocaust.

      And the fish that decided to walk on land was responsible for 9/11. What the fuck are you on about?

      I support collective ownership of the Means of Production, which will eventually lead to a Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society.

      Yet in reality it only eventually has lead to genocide. Good going, I’m sure it’ll work the next time around. All you transfolk you’re good, we pinky promise not to kill you this time around :)

      Still wont (or can’t?) be civil, tries to dodge responsibility and shows 0 sympathy for the victims of communism. Textbook fascist.

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      • Aleric@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Watching you figuratively fling yourself wildly from side to side to miss nearly every point they made, only to later blame them for the conversation going south is absolutely hilarious.

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      • Zehzin@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        shits self

        haha I owned another one

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    • dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The Weimar Republic was also deeply economically fucked because of repayments made to the Allies post WW1. There’s a little bit of history you’re casually ignoring. It wasn’t a systemic failure of “social democracy”.

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      • Cowbee@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m not ignoring it, hence why I said the presence of some systems doesn’t necessitate all consequences of similar systems.

        Their point was that because Communist governments have committed genocides, Communism itself is synonymous with Genocide. This is absolutely false, nothing about collective ownership of property in a Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society necessitates that the collective itself be evil, hence why I made that point.

        It’s fully possible to make coherent points against Communism without resorting to pure ad hominem and mysticism, and I’m fine with people making those points, as discussion adds value.

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