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Comment on alien.top is a new level of Reddit crossposting spam

rglullis@communick.news ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

We don’t want this place to be Reddit 2.0, we want it to be it’s own thing.

One of the things that I truly despise is the use of the “Royal We”. It’s a cheap rhetorical trick to make it sound like your opinion and your preference is an universal truth. It’s quite simple to disprove that what you want is not necessarily what everyone else wants.

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repost bots add nothing of value to the platform in my experience.

Thanks to mirrors, I could simply get rid of all the 40+ subreddits that I used to subscribe to lurk around. E.g, I don’t to participate in discussions on /r/soccer, but I do like to follow some of the discussions and I do like having the posts to see game highlights, match threads, etc.
Mirrors allow us to have content protected and out of Reddit’s control. If Reddit decides to tighten up their grip on the API even more, the mirrored content will be already safe from their hands.

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Masimatutu@mander.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I have never used Reddit so I don’t know what experience it is you want, but couldn’t you achieve the same thing in a better way by browsing on Teddit?

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- rglullis@communick.news ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The whole point is to leave Reddit. Just changing the frontend is not enough.
  
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  - Masimatutu@mander.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It isn’t a client, it’s a frontend. You’re not registered and you’re not contributing to traffic.
    
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    rglullis@communick.news ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The mirror is just one part of the fediverser project. The other is in getting people to migrate away from reddit by joining the corresponding communities.
    
    And it so happens that a lot of the people that want to migrate away from Reddit end up returning because they don’t find the content here from their niche communities. This is the part that the mirror attempts to solve.
    
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uis@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Mirrors allow us to have content protected and out of Reddit’s control. If Reddit decides to tighten up their grip on the API even more, the mirrored content will be already safe from their hands.

I think you are confusing people here by saying mirror. They think about it as another frontend.

I suggest to use Matrix terms. Here what you have would be one-way bridging

One-way bridging is rare, but can be used to represent a bridge that is bridging from the remote system into matrix. This is common when the remote system does not permit message posting, or is simply not capable of handling posting outside their system. The users bridged from the remote system often appear as virtual users in matrix, as is the case with matrix-appservice-instagram.

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- rglullis@communick.news ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The people complaining can’t even understand the concept of curating their own feed, do you think they will understand if we start talking about bridges and double-puppets?
  
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  - squiblet@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Seems odd to claim that people don’t understand the concept of using Subscribed to filter their feed, when they’ve made a conscious choice to change from the default to All. It seems you don’t understand the concept of browsing “All” or why people would choose that.
    
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    rglullis@communick.news ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    conscious choice to change from the default to All.
    
    First, the default listing is set by the instance administrator so we can’t be sure of what is the default in the first place.
    
    Second, one of the most common criticisms carried against open source developers is the tendency to provide too many configuration choices to end-users instead of streamlining the interface, which leads to creation of footguns.
    
    Making it so easy to browse by all is one such footgun.
    
    These “lemmy community syncing” tools is also a footgun. The people running those scripts are basically forcing all content from all communities to be copied across the instances. (curiously, if people were not running these scripts, the likelihood of them getting “hit” by alien.top would be quite small).
    
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  - JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Asking someone to stop spamming is a form of curation.
    
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    rglullis@communick.news ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    First you need to make a convincing argument that this is any type of “spamming”.
    
    Then you need to explain why you can only curate your feed by looking at their firehose, when there are far more other effective filters in place.
    
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  - uis@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    At least it will help against those who accidentally(or intentionally) say “just use Teddit”/other frontend.
    
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    rglullis@communick.news ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Honestly those don’t bother me so much as the one that call it “spam bots”. I’ve spent so much time making sure that the bots only post the content that is relevant to a specific community, and I am going out of my way to make sure that no post is going to a community that does not approve of the bots, but somehow what I am doing is as bad as the script kiddie that was posting goatse-style pictures everywhere this weekend.
    
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