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PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 9 months agoYou mean when people just ask someone else instead of heading to the single best information resource that’s ever existed in human history for an immediate answer?
No. I don’t see why people do that.
snowe@programming.dev 9 months ago
I making a point that you seem to be missing. If you have to point out some way to get around a problem that any given user will have with a piece of software, then that’s why your software is not being used. This is the continual problem with the Linux community, they think that everyone wants to learn this stuff. Most people just want their software to work. They don’t want to have to do any sort of googling to figure out why it’s crashing or why it’s running slow or why it doesn’t have this or that feature. Every time someone like you tries to point out that someone can just google something you lose another person that may have been willing to use FOSS in the future. Instead, maybe go try to fix their problem because they sure as hell aren’t going to.
PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 9 months ago
First, YOU missed the point in the original context which is different versions of different libraries may be needed to run software. Flatpak solves that particular problem.
Second, I don’t owe you or anyone tech support, nor do I care about your satisfaction level with software. Use it or don’t.
If you’re the kind of helpless person who has to be spoon fed answers, then perhaps Linux or FOSS isn’t for you, and other alternatives exist that have professional support staffs.
You act as though inputting the same information into a search engine instead of a random comment on a random forum is just A BRIDGE TOO FAR. That’s a pathetic attitude, but plenty of people will still step up to help the helpless. I just don’t have to spend my free time being one of them - though I often have when it’s obvious they’ve already at least tried to find an answer on their own.
snowe@programming.dev 9 months ago
you’re the exact kind of person making FOSS look bad to the majority of people. Since you don’t seem to realize, I run the programming.dev instance. I most likely have been working in tech longer than you. This kind of attitude you have towards “people should just learn everything about every piece of software they use” is why people like you shouldn’t be near open source software at all. You make it fucking impossible for people like me to get anyone to even try FOSS because all they remember are morons like you saying “just figure it out”. I’m not going to teach my mother in law what a fucking flatpak is and there is absofuckinglutely no way that she is going to be able to google it and figure it out. It has nothing to do with learned helplessness. It has to do with the fact that she’s a painter, not a tech guru, and gatekeeping FOSS by purposefully making it hard to use is such an idiotic thing I have no clue how you could even defend it. Your actions make big tech companies become more entrenched in people’s lives. It is by your hand that people don’t want to use things like Firefox.
Dkarma@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This is it exactly. The foss works fine and does the job these guys are just whiny bitches who want everything handed to them in perfect condition…but without conditions.
Oh no I have to mod a config file to make it do what I want…why can’t the devs just read my mind???
snowe@programming.dev 9 months ago
nobody has to read anyone’s fucking mind, why can’t you just make it a fucking settings menu? You’re the ones making it HARDER TO EVANGELIZE FOSS. For fuck’s sake! You’re entirely missing the point!
PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 9 months ago
And the people who defend Windows like they do - the ones who say it’s objectively better - have probably never had to support it professionally on either the help desk side or system admin side. I’ve done plenty of both, and I absolutely LOATH Windows because of it.
To think that Windows is perfect… My God, what luck they must have had with it. I’ve run into problems where Microsoft themselves were unable to figure out the cause OR the solution, even when paid to do so. We got a refund on that experience, but I have NEVER run into that with Linux or FOSS. Given enough information regarding a problem, I have ALWAYS had someone who will know the answer.