To be fair, we do say the same thing about “all lives matter.” An objectively true statement that can border on hate speech depending on context
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Saxoboneless@lemmy.world 11 months agoWell for one, Jews and specifically Israelis don’t have to go anywhere for Palestine and Palestinians to be free?
Like the slogan just does not at all necessarily imply what you’re imagining (or what the US congress claims) it does. That slogan’s been around longer than Hamas.
prole@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
iain@feddit.nl 11 months ago
Exactly, it’s the whole “black lives matter” vs “all lives matter” thing all over again.
iopq@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s not the free part I have an issue with, it’s the geography
iopq@lemmy.world 11 months ago
We saw how that played out in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. After it was “freed” by Azerbaijan, 100,000 people were displaced. Sure, they didn’t have to go, but some people don’t like living under a dictatorship.
Gaza didn’t have an election since 2006
LaLiLuLuCo@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Literally 75% of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza choose it as the explicit genocide option on a survey that Includes one state for two people as an option. This is a poll done by a Palestinian university in the west bank, claiming its Israeli propaganda would be pretty stupid.
Fitik@fedia.io 11 months ago
You know the original slogan in Arabic? What slogan it's translation of?
min al-mayyeh lil-mayyeh / Filasṭīn ʿarabiyyeh (من المياه للمياه / فلسطين عربية 'from the water to the water / Palestine [is] Arab')
NIB@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The slogan is being used by far right israelis too. And it is implicitly genocidal for both sides. Israel is here to stay and so is Palestine. Both sides need to accept this so we can move towards the next goal, defining which lands go to which side.
Israel needs to be charitable and give back land, remove settlers, etc. And in response Palestine needs to control its people and guarantee the safety of Israel.
A lot of Israel’s landgrab is because of security concerns or at least thats Israel’s excuse. If Palestine can remove that excuse by providing security, things can become a lot simpler.
The problem is that Palestine does not exist as a country with a unified government, partly because of Israel(supported hamas, etc), so Israel continues having legitimate security concerns.