Needs indefinite software support too. It only has 5-7 years software support from what I recall. The only reason I’ve had to get rid of old phones is because they weren’t providing security updates anymore.
BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 11 months ago
I believe the concept behind Fairphone sounds interesting, but I think this thing about being environmentally friendly shouldn’t be focused on high-end devices, if the Fairphone 5 costs the same as 10 cheap devices(considering cheap devices have a lifetime of 1.5 years) and a biggest % of people would be able to afford a 60 bucks device vs a 600 bucks one I don’t see the point here, maybe they should make a device focused on the cheap budget pocket to really fight with the devices consumerism who are the ones what mainly create the e-waste problem. I’m not an expert but this is my humble POV.
MaximilianKohler@lemmy.world 11 months ago
BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 11 months ago
Security updates are good but the major of the weakness it’s the human using the device, there wouldn’t be any security update which can fight a dumb user, my humble POV.
__dev@lemmy.world 11 months ago
There’s vulnerabilities like the recent iMessage exploit that are executed remotely through no interaction by the user. In combination with the ability to self-spread you get mass exploits like WannaCry which spread to 300k+ computers in 7 hours. All you need is a network connection.
BrowseMan@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
The problem is that, apparently the software support is lacking.
It seems security updates are (very) slow to come.
It’s a shame because the concept is very interesting and was thinking of taking the fairphone 5 as my next phone. However the bad feedback regarding updates made me look into another model
pearsche@lemdro.id 11 months ago
Imo, paying a small extra for the device makes sense because it’s not a huge company, and the r&d must be expensive.
BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 11 months ago
Yeah I mean for people who can afford any phone out there it’s not a big problem, but if you are from IDK maybe the 80% who cannot do it I believe it’s better if they focus or at least have a line of products for the people who would be interested in a budget price phone, people who don’t need the most great-eco-friendly phone with 16GB of RAM and 1TB of ROM, maybe something optimized for work with 4GB/64GB configuration and could last 5 years it’s a better idea for me but anyway I’m really not interested into having 24 cores CPU and 350 megapixel camara just to watch porn and news in Lemmy haha. It depends of the need of the user but maybe focusing too into a more practical phone for the 80% of user could be good for the business.
pearsche@lemdro.id 11 months ago
It’s a very neat idea (I myself would get a mid range phone like that), but I wonder if they can actually do that… Has anyone ever asked them?
BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 11 months ago
The problem I think it’s about the production and costs, all corporations nowdays manufacture in China so I believe if there would be a great budget/eco-friendly phone or another products what can actually fight in the global market it have to be a Chinese company who make it. But I believe the Chinese are not interested in it if they can keep making cheap stuff and sell it like hamburgers for the hungers. So for Fairphone being an European company I think it’s better to stick in the high-end niche. At least that way they can sell their stuff to eco-friendly wannabes and keep making a good profit in the side.
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 11 months ago
I wonder if its just cheaper to make the crappy disposable devices, either because just gluing shit together is easy, or because the existing business model & supply lines based on planned obsolescence are established and optimised.
Ultimately any business model based on chasing anything but the most money is going to be at a disadvantage under capitalism. Want to prioritise good products, less waste, human dignity, not destroying the ecology? Well, you’re going to make less money, so you can spend less on capturing market share and you will always have a more niche and more expensive product that will be left behind by products that focus on money above all else.
BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 11 months ago
I believe anything don’t cost by itself, I mean money and prices are a man-made concept englobed into economy, so I believe making cheap stuff and making expensive stuff are just two concepts englobed into capitalism.
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 11 months ago
Yeah, in a better world where the people have control of the means of production, we wouldn’t care at all about financial return when making something. We’d make it to work well and to last and to be repairable, just like current open source hardware is. We’d make it for us.
BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 11 months ago
True dat folk! ✌️🤞