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• MossyFeathers@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Is this about people using it/its pronouns, or something else? I know a couple people who use it/its, it/she, it/whatever, so I’m really hoping you aren’t upset about people identifying that way.

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  • Stamets@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No, of course not. If you want to identify using those pronouns then I’ll do my best to respect that and use them. Can’t say I might not fuck up occasionally and use the wrong one, but I make an active effort because I want everyone to feel welcome.

    This person is using those pronouns to attack being trans as a whole. They were listing off a slew of comments that were attacking everyone in Starfleet for being ‘transphobic’ because no one would respect Seven of Nines wishes to be called a drone when she first was disconnected from the collective. Doesn’t matter that Seven chose her own pronouns. Doesn’t matter that Seven was literally brainwashed and mindcontrolled into having no identity anymore.

    When the mods (I can’t remember who it was) pushed back on that take, this transphobe got really aggressive.

    I respect people who use different pronouns with it/its. I just don’t respect that person who uses those pronouns.

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    • MossyFeathers@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sorry if I came off as confrontational, I didn’t mean to. I believe you’re doing with good intentions, I’m just aware that some folks think that it/its is degrading or enabling transphobes.

      I looked through its post history and I can’t tell if they’re being legit or trolling, though assuming it’s being legit, it seems some of its complaints have to do with xenogenders not being entirely accepted?

      Xenogender is one of those things I kinda get, but also don’t. I get not identifying with humanity, but xenogenders seem like furry/therian/voidpunk/whatever with extra steps and not really the right tool, if that makes sense. Like if someone’s using them is using a screwdriver to hammer a nail because they’ve either never seen a hammer, they don’t like hammers, or there’s a social stigma around using a hammer.

      In regards to Seven of Nine specifically, assuming it’s being legit (I didn’t see their original comments), it may be a case of it projecting its own wishes of being seen as a drone onto Seven of Nine.

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      • Stamets@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah there’s a lot of missing context and unfortunately they nuked their account so I can’t see the posting history.

        You weren’t confrontational though. Don’t worry!

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• Mechoselachia@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Please, try to have some empathy for those that are different from you. You’ve been following this person for months while they talk about their gender, and your conclusion is that it’s some joke, or dog whistle? Just accept that not everyone is going to have a common gender and move on.

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  • Stamets@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You’ve been following this person for months while they talk about their gender

    No. I haven’t. They were banned from this community 3 months ago and I forgot they exist until they commented above. I would like examples of me “following this person”. I am also not a moderator nor an admin. I had no hand in their banning.

    However the blatant double account here is pretty intense. You created your account 42 minutes ago just to make this comment? Sure.

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    • Mechoselachia@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I have trouble logging in, I’m a troll. Someone has an unusual gender, they’re a troll. I think I’m starting to get how you deal with things you don’t like online. I’m trying to ask you nicely to check yourself while you’re being transphobic. That shouldn’t make you fight, that should make you say “okay, I’ll stop being horrible.”

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    • DroneRights@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Believe it or not, other people care about supporting trans rights. Other people will actually make a new account (and abandon their @mechoselachia@lemmy.world) account so that they can ask you to display the barest shred of empathy for a nonbinary person.

      And you will listen to someone asking you to have empathy, and you will decide to ignore them and attack them, because apparently you have no empathy to give to trans people, and you don’t care.

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      • TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You’re so hilariously full of shit

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• DroneRights@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The mission of Starfleet is to seek out new life with curiosity and enthusiasm. You found someone with a gender that you didn’t understand, and instead of approaching it with curiosity and enthusiasm, you declared that xenogenders are transphobic.

  To quote Picard in The Measure of a Man: Starfleet was founded to seek out new life; well, there it sits! - Waiting.

  I have never posted a transphobic thing in my life. You simply think that the existence of xenogenders is transphobic.

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  • Stamets@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m not engaging with a transphobe. Goodbye.

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    • DroneRights@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You mean you’re not engaging with a nonbinary person. Which is your personal definition of transphobe. You know, if I was a cis man and a trans person told me I was being transphobic, I would at least spend 10 minutes questioning if I’m wrong. I’d do that basic courtesy. But if you’re telling me you’re incapable of that, then fine. I’ll let everyone else know exactly how you feel about the prospect of admitting maybe nonbinary people are real.

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  • TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No the existence of “xenogenders” is an absolute delusion

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