You’re ignoring the fact that you need accessories that will up your cost to the 100$ range. Either way, fine, there are now 4 and 5th gen HP Mini PCs selling for 50-70$. Want even cheaper then look for i3 CPU + 4 GB of RAM, you’ll find 40$ complete machines that run faster and are way better than a Pi. All of those options come with power adapters and all the things required to get it going.
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DaGeek247@kbin.social 11 months ago100$ isn't cheaper than 55$. That's 200% more than the pi. If someone is looking for a pi because of the price, a 100$ computer isn't an option.
TCB13@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 11 months ago
The Pi is $55 without any accessories… With accessories it’s way over $100.
DaGeek247@kbin.social 11 months ago
Not really. It's made to run headless, and isn't always used for compute tasks. I use mine for running servos. But accessories for the desktop are also not included, so your point doesnt stand regardless.
Bondrewd@lemmy.world 11 months ago
My brother in christ. A used PC has powersupply, case, storage and cooling. This is about the basic kit you need for a proper pi5 experience. You can very easily hit the 100 dollar mark.
Also, most of the used business PC will have 8G RAM, which would put your little ARM funsies up to the $130 budget range.
And you would still only have 4 shitty cores.
DaGeek247@kbin.social 11 months ago
And it wouldn't have gpio, would require at least a square foot of floor/desk space, and it would cost more to run. Price. Size. Gpio. Nobody is running their remote controlled car with a cabled desktop sat on it.
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 11 months ago
You’re assuming use-case.
TCB13@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Oh his point stands, as soon as you add a case and a power adapter/cable you’re near 100$.
DaGeek247@kbin.social 11 months ago
No it doesn't. The power supply is 8$ and the case is 10$, from the official store. That's 72$. Stop lying.
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I’ve got easily 50 power adapters for things like Pi. Doesn’t everyone?
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 11 months ago
What accessories? You’re assuming everyone needs all the accessories.
Which accessories?
I’ve got a million keyboards, mice, monitors, cables, chargers, adapters, etc. And I run RPi headless for most use-cases. One is currently using a ten-year old phone charger, it’s on wifi, so what accessories again?
I don’t need that mini computer which is 10 times the size of an RPi for my use cases.
Is it attractive for certain use-cases? Certainly (and I have those on my shopping list), but you keep going on like it’s just the better device.
Hell, I bought a few Pis on sale for $5 each years ago. How is that PC going to beat five bucks, 2 watts max, for my given use-cases (things like Pi-Hole, Vaultwarden, Joplin, etc)?
Yea, to replace my Pis would be about $30 each, but they’d fit in the same place, and migration is a snap.
Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 11 months ago
Sure, you do. But people just starting likely do not. I’m thinking of the new user, not just myself.
For that you don’t even need a Pi 5. You can get a cheap SBC at around $10-20 to do that work.
And you are assuming people are only buying new boards to replace old boards.
“Keep going on”? I’ve mentioned it maybe 2 times, that’s hardly enough to classify it as “keep going on”.
I just don’t believe that Raspberry Pi or SBCs are the king(s) of home servers anymore. There are a lot of cheap x86_64 based options out there. But yes, if you just upgrade from a previous generation the Pi 5 is perfect for you, even though it’s likely overkill for your use-case.