Comment on Our children are victims of road violence. We need to talk about the deadly norms of car use
Zagorath@aussie.zone 10 months ago[deleted]
Comment on Our children are victims of road violence. We need to talk about the deadly norms of car use
Zagorath@aussie.zone 10 months ago
tslnox@reddthat.com 10 months ago
Wait, what? They are absolutely right.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 10 months ago
No they’re not. They are arguing against a straw man so ridiculous it’s more of a small sad-looking pile of straw. And they know it, too; they’re a regular car-brained troll in this community, and they’ve had it pointed out to them why their arguments are nonsense many times before.
Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
carbrains are real but this user isn’t one
it’s obvious that the real problem is that Melbourne’s buses and roads are shit, not that people are driving at normal car speeds.
lowering speed limits are a good thing but really low speeds like 6km/h only belong in carparks and high pedestrian areas.
20km/h should be the norm for areas like shopping streets.
Anyway the real problem is that we have designed our car moving roads to be right in the centre or population centres, and that our buses are really fucking horribly scheduled and operated. Even our 90x “smartbus” high frequency lines have really shit 20m or worse frequency sometimes, and off peak frequency is generally shit on any route, even rail.
It would be nice if 2 people waiting at a crosswalk got priority over 1 person in a car, but that’s not going to happen with the primitive “heavy moving box strong” logic in our brains, get real
Zagorath@aussie.zone 10 months ago
fwiw this user definitely is car-brained. It’s not just this one comment. They have a long history of opposing improvements to our cities and defending motornormativity.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 10 months ago
Absolutely. Which is why that nobody is saying 6 km/h should be the norm. The article said closer to. With current speed limits normally being 60 km/h, and you’re extremely lucky if you can get it reduced to 40 km/h, their “closer to” is pretty obviously not saying it should be 6 km/h. They’re talking about 30 km/h on local residential streets.
jimbo@lemmy.world 10 months ago
What is the “straw man” in their argument? Be specific.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 10 months ago
No, I won’t. Because you’re smart enough to figure it out yourself. The only barrier to figuring it out is a deliberate obstinance and opposition to better urban planning.