Comment on Monero Project admits thieves stole 6-figure sum from a wallet in mystery breach

• Saki@monero.town ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I think I know what you’re trying to say, and that’s actually a difficult point. Privacy is double-edged.

  By that logic, you’d have to support chat control, e2e backdoor, eIDAS 45, etc. and ban Tor, Tails, VPN, BitTorrent, or encrypted communication in general because sometimes criminals can (and do) abuse such technology too. While such logic is understandable, I’m a privacy advocate and can’t agree with that. Most libre people, EFF, FSF, etc. have been fighting against that very logic for more than 20 years. I’m one of them.

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• zergtoshi@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s designed to protect anyone using it - even attackers.
  That’s the price to pay for having privacy.
  The alternative is an Orwellian dystopia.

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  • brambledog@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Really?

    Please show me in which of Orwell’s writings he suggested that economies should be based off allowing financial criminals to commi their crimes against citizens, unimpeded.

    The thesis of 1984 is that when totalitarianism takes hold, we will turn on those we love to protect ourselves. Which specific portion of that novel do you believe told you that true freedom is getting your money stolen with no recourse?

    This is primarily the issue with libertarians. You guys are constantly applying a book you haven’t read to every situation you don’t like. It’s weird and I think people see through it.

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    • zergtoshi@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Please show me in which of Orwell’s writings he suggested that economies should be based off allowing financial criminals to commi their crimes against citizens, unimpeded.

      I don’t need to and I won’t, because I never said so.
      Please don’t put thibgs in my mouth.

      The thesis of 1984 is that when totalitarianism takes hold, we will turn on those we love to protect ourselves.

      I was thinking of 1984, too; obviously.
      I see it in a more abstract way though.
      The consequences of mass surveillance, which are the basis of repressive regimentation of people are what makes lack of privacy dangerous and in my book not desirable - even if it has certain drawbacks, because abandoning privacy just has way more and more severe drawbacks.

      This is primarily the issue with libertarians. You guys are constantly applying a book you haven’t read to every situation you don’t like. It’s weird and I think people see through it.

      This is primarily the issue with people who think they know others because they’ve read one comment.
      It’ weird and I think people see through it.

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