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Comment on Google turns to regulators to make Apple open up iMessage

huginn@feddit.it ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

I think it’s weird because:

Your iMessage and FaceTime conversations are encrypted end-to-end, so they can’t be read while they’re sent between devices.

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Is completely bullshit. It’s not secure, they can be read because iMessage is the way you send texts to Android as well as iOS, and apples absolute refusal to budge or to adopt other standards means that regulation is the only way to modernize a 30 year old protocol.

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KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
This is not accurate. iMessages are only sent between Apple devices, you cannot send an iMessage to android, or any other non-Apple device.

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dojan@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I think they’re getting away with it because of the phrasing.

Messages sent through the iMessage service are encrypted, but not all messages you sent through the Messages (note the lack of i) app are iMessage messages. It’s the exact type of fucking sneaky bullshit that should be regulated so hard it stops existing, but I guess our regulators don’t think it’s a big deal right now.

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@edinbruh@feddit.it mentions in another comment that

A recent … EU law mandates that if your platform is big enough … to gatekeep users from using other platforms, then it must interoperate with competing services.

And I think this is how Apple would “sneak” through this as well. The Messages app doesn’t lock you into a communications protocol. If the recipient has iMessages, it sends via that, if not, it sends via SMS/MMS. No idea if that argument would hold, I hope it wouldn’t. I would honestly prefer it if there was just a single open messaging standard that anyone could hook into, because closed proprietary tech is fucking bullshit on every single level.

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- AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  As someone who occasionally meets people with Android phones, yes, I’d like to see “chartreuse bubbles” for RCS in Messages
  
  Then again, I was a huge fan of Pidgin back in the days, with its goal to speak every texting protocol
  
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