It has nothing to do with double dipping or the way the article describes it which isn’t really what the word means. Having two jobs you work during different hours is usually fine. Working them during the same hours is the issue.
You can assert that it’s a “problem” all you want, it doesn’t make it true. Salaried exempt has a definition which is compatible, in abstract, with working two jobs in the same working day or week span. It has to do with being able to fill the key responsibilities of your job description on a given day or week. If you fulfill those, the rest of the time is yours to do whatever you want with. The expectation is that on the other hand you will work overtime if needed to complete those key aspects without additional pay. That’s the definition in a nutshell. You adding stipulations about time and “double dipping”, et cetera is fabrication. That’s just what companies eventually pushed into being normalized as unwritten law in an ever-present desire to squeeze every single imaginary accounting cent they can out of their most expensive assets. It’s high time people pushed back on this bullshit. Most people in office jobs can do their jobs effectively in well under 40 hours. One of the reasons there’s so much bureacracy and time wasting in corporate environments is so people can fill up that arbitrary amount of time without 😱 looking like they’re doing their jobs in less than 40 hours. Businesses heavily mismanage people (and their bottom line) by assuming every single minute spent on the job as recorded is linearly related to productivity. It’s not. You will lose out much more from the inefficiency begat by a toxic culture promoted by those wrong assumptions than the minuscule gains in imaginary labor value you put down on the accounting journals. There’s only so much you can squeeze from people, beyond that it’s delusion and negative gains. A good manager understands that the true resource is employee morale, trust, and loyalty; and you can’t get that without being realistic about what it means to treat employees like human beings. Jobs used to be 9 to 5, the 40-hour standard was based on something a 10 year old would’ve pulled out of their ass, and study after study after study shows nothing but positives both for employers and employees in more efficient and balanced work time structures than the current mass delusion standard.
According to ADP, the DoL, and the FLSA you’re wrong.
Can you require exempt employees to work certain hours?1
Employers are free to create work schedules for exempt employees however they see fit as long as they comply with any state and local regulations that govern meals and breaks.
Does an exempt employee have to work 40 hours a week?1
No, however, many businesses have company policies mandating a 40-hour workweek for exempt employees. Employers may take disciplinary action, including termination, against anyone who doesn’t fulfill that requirement, but they usually can’t deduct pay. Doing so might result in the employee no longer qualifying for the exemption.
Further you keep making comments about “fill the key responsibilities of your job description” like most workers have extremely specific job duties. This is not the case for salaried-exempt workers: 2
primary duty must be managing the enterprise…department…or subdivision of the enterprise; OR
primary duty includes the exercise of discretion and independent judgment with respect to matters of significance; OR
primary duty must be the performance of work requiring advanced knowledge, defined as work which is predominantly intellectual in character and which includes work requiring the consistent exercise of discretion and judgment; AND The advanced knowledge must be in a field of science or learning; AND The advanced knowledge must be customarily acquired by a prolonged course of specialized intellectual instruction.
It’s high time people pushed back on this bullshit. Most people in office jobs can do their jobs effectively in well under 40 hours.
This is a terrible hill to die on. By that logic, most office jobs can be outsourced to India for a third of the cost if all you do is check off a list. If Employers have to deal with people double-dipping, they’ll pay a fraction of your salary for it.
A good manager understands that the true resource is employee morale, trust, and loyalty
It’s a two way street. Employees hiding the fact that they are working a second job during the time they are suppose to be working for you is a breach of trust as well.
study after study after study shows nothing but positives both for employers and employees in more efficient and balanced work time structures than the current mass delusion standard.
Wait a minute, now you’re trying to double-dip arguments! You can’t sit there are argue that the 40 hour work week is bad and inefficient and then claim that a person should be able to work two jobs simultaneously like it wouldn’t be even more inefficient or worse for work / life balance. It’s absurd that you’d even say that. Your comments more and more are incoherent ramblings of someone who hasn’t thought anything through and just wants to complain about work.
1847953620@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Same topic, bud.
phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It has nothing to do with double dipping or the way the article describes it which isn’t really what the word means. Having two jobs you work during different hours is usually fine. Working them during the same hours is the issue.
1847953620@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You can assert that it’s a “problem” all you want, it doesn’t make it true. Salaried exempt has a definition which is compatible, in abstract, with working two jobs in the same working day or week span. It has to do with being able to fill the key responsibilities of your job description on a given day or week. If you fulfill those, the rest of the time is yours to do whatever you want with. The expectation is that on the other hand you will work overtime if needed to complete those key aspects without additional pay. That’s the definition in a nutshell. You adding stipulations about time and “double dipping”, et cetera is fabrication. That’s just what companies eventually pushed into being normalized as unwritten law in an ever-present desire to squeeze every single imaginary accounting cent they can out of their most expensive assets. It’s high time people pushed back on this bullshit. Most people in office jobs can do their jobs effectively in well under 40 hours. One of the reasons there’s so much bureacracy and time wasting in corporate environments is so people can fill up that arbitrary amount of time without 😱 looking like they’re doing their jobs in less than 40 hours. Businesses heavily mismanage people (and their bottom line) by assuming every single minute spent on the job as recorded is linearly related to productivity. It’s not. You will lose out much more from the inefficiency begat by a toxic culture promoted by those wrong assumptions than the minuscule gains in imaginary labor value you put down on the accounting journals. There’s only so much you can squeeze from people, beyond that it’s delusion and negative gains. A good manager understands that the true resource is employee morale, trust, and loyalty; and you can’t get that without being realistic about what it means to treat employees like human beings. Jobs used to be 9 to 5, the 40-hour standard was based on something a 10 year old would’ve pulled out of their ass, and study after study after study shows nothing but positives both for employers and employees in more efficient and balanced work time structures than the current mass delusion standard.
phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 year ago
According to ADP, the DoL, and the FLSA you’re wrong.
Can you require exempt employees to work certain hours? 1
Does an exempt employee have to work 40 hours a week? 1
Further you keep making comments about “fill the key responsibilities of your job description” like most workers have extremely specific job duties. This is not the case for salaried-exempt workers: 2
This is a terrible hill to die on. By that logic, most office jobs can be outsourced to India for a third of the cost if all you do is check off a list. If Employers have to deal with people double-dipping, they’ll pay a fraction of your salary for it.
It’s a two way street. Employees hiding the fact that they are working a second job during the time they are suppose to be working for you is a breach of trust as well.
Wait a minute, now you’re trying to double-dip arguments! You can’t sit there are argue that the 40 hour work week is bad and inefficient and then claim that a person should be able to work two jobs simultaneously like it wouldn’t be even more inefficient or worse for work / life balance. It’s absurd that you’d even say that. Your comments more and more are incoherent ramblings of someone who hasn’t thought anything through and just wants to complain about work.