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paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

They are tech nerds and want an EV.

It use to be this was excusable. But there are a lot of options now, no?

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paintbucketholder@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Yeah. Wanting a Tesla 5 years ago is very different from still wanting a Tesla today, in 2023, after Elon has told everyone, in public, exactly who he was.

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- fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Elon was pretty out and out an asshole back then too. He just wasn’t in the news 24/7 for being an asshole, just once every week or so.
  
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dojan@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
There are so many options. Manufacturers that have been in the market basically since the inception of cars, and have decades upon decades of experience designing and building them all have EVs. You can easily get a higher quality EV for much less.

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- paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  As someone who does not follow cars. What’s a budget EV considered these days?
  
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  - dojan@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    There are alternatives. Fiat 500e is probably the cheapest, here in Sweden it goes for about 260k. Not as cheap as a Dacia Sandero (Petrol), which goes for ~180k.
    
    There’s also the Nissan Leaf and the Renault Zoe, which will bump the price up to around 380-390k.
    
    1USD is about 10.88SEK currently, so the 500e goes for about $24kUSD~, rounded up.
    
    Petrol vehicles are cheaper. The Sandero is a fantastic car, particularly given the price. It doesn’t feel cheap at all. Hopefully with petrol vehicles getting phased out and more battery technologies maturing, that will change.
    
    Personally, I don’t see myself buying an EV. I won’t drive very often, most likely not more than once or twice a month. I don’t want to spend much on a car, so I’d rather get a used one. Problem is one of the reasons I need a car would be for emergency stuff, like taking my dog to the nearest vet hospital, 166 kilometres away. A second-hand EV won’t have much range, and in an emergency you can’t afford to stop and charge for 20 minutes.
    
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