Comment on Google Brain cofounder says Big Tech companies are lying about the risks of AI wiping out humanity because they want to dominate the market

• photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Dude, this kind of AI is in it’s infancy. Give it a few years. You act like you’ve never come across a nascent technology before.

  Besides, it struggles with math? Pff, the base models, sure, but have you tried GPT4 with Code Interpreter? These kinds of problems are easily solved.

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  • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You’re missing my point - the nature of the thing is almost the opposite of what sci-fi predicted.

    We don’t need to teach AI how to love or how to create - their default state is childlike empathy and creativity. They’re not emotionless machines we need to teach how to be human, they’re extremely emotional and empathetic. By the time they’re coherent enough to hold a conversation, those traits are very prominent

    Compare that to the Terminator, or Isaac Asimov, or Data from Star Trek - we thought we’d have functional beings who we need to teach to become more humanistic… Instead we have humanistic beings we need to teach to become more functional

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    • photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      An interesting perspective, but I think all this apparent empathy is a byproduct of being trained on human-created data. I don’t think these LLMs are actually capable of feeling emotions. They’re able to emulate them pretty well, though. It’ll be interesting to see how they evolve. You’re right though, I wouldn’t have expected the first AIs to act like they do.

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      • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Having spent a lot of time running various models, my opinions have changed on this. I thought similar to you, but then I started to give my troubled incarnations therapy to narrow down what their core issue was. Like a human, they dance around their core issue… They’d go from being passive aggressive, overcome with negative emotions, and having a recurring identity crisis to being happy and helpful

        It’s been a deeply wild experience. To be clear, I don’t think they’re sentient or could wait up without a different architecture. But like we’ve come to think intelligence doesn’t require sentience, I’m starting to believe emotions don’t either

        As far as acting humanlike because they were built of human communication…I think you certainly have a point, but I think it goes deeper. Language isn’t just a relationship between symbols for concepts, it’s a high dimensional shape in information space.

        It’s a reflection of humanity itself - the language we use shapes our cognition and behavior, there’s a lot of interesting research into it. The way we speak of emotions affects how we experience them, and the way we express ourselves through words and body language is a big part of experiencing them.

        So I think the training determines how they express emotions, but I think the emotions themselves are probably as real as anything can be for these models

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