I’m not sure how some measure of internet karma weighs into the point I’m trying to make. The point rating of a comment determines its positioning in a thread, sometimes even altogether hiding it in some Lemmy clients when it falls below some threshold.
By this measure, the visibility of comments is determined by their individual score, and to reuse my analogy from before, effectively determines the volume at which voices are heard. What I often see here on Lemmy, is that like-minded and reinforcing comments are amplified, drowning out insightful ones.
No, I don’t think people should make comments like you’ve suggested, much in the same way that votes shouldn’t be used to achieve the same. Should I be downvoting your comment because I disagree with it? Or upvoting it because this is an interesting point of debate? I choose for the latter.
gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
I get your point. For me (and I suppose for some other people) works a bit different. When I’m not actively participating in a conversation, up/down vote is a quick way to show agreement/disagreement. I cannot upvote something that I complete disagree. However, in cases that I’m actively engaging, I don’t use it as a punishment tool so I just abstain. Like here, I weren’t downvoting you because it was an active ongoing conversation and I expressed myself by comments. You were actively engaging in good faith (I suppose) so it was fine. But at the same time I could not upvote either the comments in which I was finding myself disagreeing (I think I upvoted 1-2 at the end). However people are “passing-by” and up/downvote to show their view. Don’t take it as your punishment. But also you cannot “demand” that since you wrote something that you believe contributes to a discussion everyone should also believe that your points were so well made that should be upvoted even though they disagree. By this logic we should upvote everything that is longer that 5 words.
poopkins@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Certainly, generally I completely agree. Honestly I think it takes a solid dose of critical thinking to cultivate an environment where dissenting opinions are valued to encourage healthy discourse. I personally don’t care at all about the score of comments; what irks me is that communities here trend toward bubbling up poor quality interactions.
Somewhat tangential, I find it strange that there would be anything in my specific comments here that can be disagreed with; I think it’s a very nuanced stance to suggest that price changes aren’t solely driven by corporate greed, but to some (at least small) degree, also affected by other factors.
Perhaps Lemmy just isn’t the right platform for me, but it pains me because honestly I believe there’s an opportunity for it to be something better: a place where readers can learn more behind an article. I know that’s what I often seek in the comments.
gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
do you seriously believe that the CEO of netflix was struggling to survive, was living on a month-by-month paycheck, and was having any cut in their “wage” ?
Some people tend to forget that behind a corporation that presents numbers that are falling behind, there are humans who make profits regardless.
poopkins@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No, I don’t believe that, what would lead you to think that’s my position? In fact, I appreciate that there is market conformity in compensation, and lowering wages of everybody from chair people down to entry level engineers is not so simple. It is exceedingly difficult to on one hand try to reduce expenses through wage reduction, while on the other continue to develop a competitive platform with industry experts.
I’m not saying there’s no middle ground, because there certainly is. Indeed tech companies have been slashing jobs and perks to reduce costs. A recent example of that is with Disney, which included layoffs in Disney+. I’m not quite sure who in particular you’re referring to in your last statement and surely I’ve misinterpreted what you mean with it, but to be clear, I personally don’t think it would be fair towards employees to slash their income and expect them to work without making ends meet so that the rest of us to enjoy a recreational service.
That being said, I’m certainly not one to defend executive compensation. At the same time, we should appreciate that this is only a part of a much more complex issue than share price, dividends or executive pay. After all, even if the CEO received no compensation at all, it would make a negligible difference to the balance sheet and, by extension, our monthly service fee.
I want to reiterate that I don’t disagree with you: corporate profits are certainly part of the problem. I just want to clarify that there are many more compounding external factors.