Comment on Elon Musk Offers to Also Ruin Wikipedia

• Meowoem@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You’re saying a lot of things in strong terms but not proving any evidence for why you’re right and groups like TfL who are regarded as one of the most advanced public transport networks in the world are wrong when they say mixed mode integrated transport networks are the only viable option.

  Just adding swearwords and huffing like youre some expert talking down to a fool is a fun tactic in a discussion but when you don’t have anything to back it up then it just makes you look like a bloviating jackass.

  Do you really think that running train lines to every rural house is ecologically more sound than cars? And we run them all empty on the of chance that someone wants to use them? Do we run a cargo line to ever farm and factory?

  There are use cases where ecologically speaking personal vehicles are the only even vaguely sensible solution.

  If you had a heart attack would you like the paramedics to spend an hour waiting for trains then another hour on trains taking you to the hospital? Maybe special ambulance trains that wizz past the others and delay everyone hours because the schedules got messed up while they were in sidings? No? Then we’re building roads anyway and it would be silly not to use them.

  And yes air travel using efuels is ecologically far less impactful then train travel even on legacy lines (i.e. lines which have repaid their initial construction cost (ecological), these don’t really exist much because maintenance continues to add significant ecological cost.)

  Cost over the life of infrastructure per person mile is actually very low for aviation, airports are cheaper than trainlines by a wide margin and planes are about the same cost as trains per served mile, a bit cheaper but thats largely due to economies of scale so I’ll be charitable and handwave it.

  We need more trains, we get more trains by being realistic about where they’re useful and proposing and supporting sensible developments. Personally I am angry at the endless green flag waving idiots that opposed HS2 because it was going though forests, that is an amazingly good use of trains and have been already reducing both car and lorry use on some of the UK’s busiest roads while also serving as a great starting point to a integrated cargo network requiring only last mile trucking - but it got shit all over by so many people including idiots that shout on Facebook about how terrible cars are and then say the HS2 cargo transport plan was bad because it was built around mixed mode rather than some magic transporter or what most the lunatics actually seen to want a return to barbarism and the destruction of our modern society.

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  • masquenox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If you had a heart attack would you like the paramedics to spend an hour waiting for trains then another hour on trains taking you to the hospital?

    Oh, look… hysterical hyperbole. Yawn.

    And yes air travel using efuels is ecologically far less impactful then train travel even on legacy lines

    Prove it.

    and the destruction of our modern society.

    Oh, look… more hysterical hyperbole. Yawn (again).

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    • Meowoem@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So what is your magic answer for emergency services in a zero car world? Or do you want to admit that yes roads and automobiles are kinda vital?

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      • masquenox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        So what is your magic answer for emergency services in a zero car world?

        Oh… look - the person that can’t argue without resorting to hysterical hyperbole is mysteriously resorting to yet more hysterical hyperbole.

        Who woulda thunk it?

        What are you trying to do - win the prestigious “Right-wing Shill Of The Year” award?

        Can you show me one person that has ever advocated for this (alleged) “zero-car” world?

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