Comment on The Not-So-Great Replacement Theory
FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world 1 year agoOh please wise man from the soap mountain, tell me how culture is not a false concept equal to heritage or race when used to define a certain group of people as being better than any other. I surely cannot think of past heads of states using race to justify their horrendous actions against other nations, we have no doubt only fought wars for culture in our history!!
Same old, same old, when confronted with an argument you cannot address always go for “there’s too much work to do and I’m too lazy to do it so I’m leaving the discussion while pretending I’m right”.
Never play chess with a pigeon, it will scatter the pieces on the board, shit around and walk around with his puffed chest as he won the game
magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 year ago
“when used to define a certain group of people as being better than any other.”
There is another bad faith tactic you are using. You keep appending that on to fit the scenario you want. Race and culture are different things. They can influence each other but they are different. Both shape identity but that doesn’t mean that either most inherently inform a person that they are better than someone with a different race or heritage. Has it often been used that way in the past, yes, but it’s not inherent to the notions of race and heritage.
Your examples paint you as awfully convinced that foreigners are completely incapable of integrating into a new society. That’s pretty bigoty. People can participate in multiple cultures. They can pick and choose and blend them.
“It’s like saying that Chinese immigrants to Europe will be European because they live the European culture”
So is the conclusion you come to that they will never be European? They will always be foreign?
You shit on the chess board a little prematurely.
FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Please, provide examples of heritage and/or colture being used for the betterment of society.
Protip: you can’t.
Heritage and colture are frozen in time and will never be used to improve society because they need a strict set of boundaries to remain heritage and colture. Should a colture be poisoned by external factors it would immediately cease to be the same culture it was a minute ago and would become something different, thus being rejected by those who practice said colture in a religious way.
To make a simpler example you may be able to understand: I am Italian. The thing italians hate the most is ananas on pizza because “this goes against our culture!”
Should I dare to say that I enjoy ananas on my pizza tomorrow (I don’t, but that’s what a thought experiment is) most of my friends would be appalled by my statement and would fight me on that.
Culture or heritage intended as a set of characteristics stereotypical of a certain subset if humans are a cancer to society and should be eliminated.
Of course they could become European, should they decide to leave their culture behind and to homogenise in the society they live in. Unfortunately peer and societal pressure do not allow for such a change and therefore they are doomed to remain marginalized because they cannot accept their culture, heritage or race not being “the best”
magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Wow dude, you really are a bigot and don’t even realize it. Those poor weak willed soft minded foreigners just can’t think for themselves or change. They are doomed to live only in the context of their scary different culture.
If ananas on pizza is the extent of what you think culture is then you are profoundly ignorant. If you know that culture extends to things beyond that, like music and art as examples, then you are disingenuously misrepresenting culture. If you want to make the case that the entirety of art and music has done nothing good then I’ll listen… skeptically.
FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world 1 year ago
There is Culture with a capital C (music, arts, literature, etc.) which is a universal way of expression and then there is culture with a lowercase c (heritage, dialects, common beliefs, traditions, etc.) which are typical of a very distinct group of people being part of a well-defined territory.
The first can and has since always helped human beings create bridges between different groups, since it is a common way to express ones’ feelings and can overcome the language and culture barriers.
The second is used to keep these group apart with the subtle yet very present assumption that each people has “the best” culture when compared to others.
If you cannot understand this difference I think we have a very big communication problem.
Not every foreigner is unable to change, yet many remain stoic in their willingness to not assimilate by regrouping in ghettos when they move abroad. The issue is double-faced, on one side there are the immigrants who are not strong enough to pull out from their social group due to peer pressure and to the beliefs they were programmed to follow from a very young age; on the other side there are the receiving societies which tend to avoid the assimilation of new “cultures” (I’m using brackets to differentiate culture and Culture from now on) because they are afraid of new perspectives and ways of being and would avoid mixing with those to preserve their native “culture”.
Erase culture (intended as heritage) and humankind has only to gain from shedding these old ideas. If we would focus on what we have in common with the others instead of what are the differences between us we would all live much better, don’t you think?
Typical bigot point of view, I know…