Comment on My new favourite password manager

monetize_nothing@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Rootiest@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I have both set up right now.

  Things I like better about KeePass:

  KeePass doesn’t use the cloud, you don’t have to worry about the server getting compromised because there’s nothing public-facing to hack. You always know where your password database is.

  KeePass lets you encrypt the database with not only the master password but also using the challenge-response from a YubiKey. That means every time you save your DB the encryption key is rotated.

  While both can add custom fields to an entry, I like that KeePass has the option to set fields as protected so their contents are hidden like the passwords.

  Things I like better about VaultWarden:

  Convenience.

  You can log in to your VaultWarden account on any device from the browser. KeePass requires some software to access the DB.

  The VaultWarden companion software is just better. It just does autofill better. KeePassXC/DX work well but just not as well as the BitWarden software.

  Other thoughts:

  Syncing passwords between devices with KeePass requires 3rd party software like SyncThing. If you break/lose/etc your VaultWarden server you could lose all your passwords with it.

  Always make/test backups.

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  • zeluko@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I like that KeePass has the option to set fields as protected
    Vaultwarden can do that

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    • Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Folder/subfolders work just fine… when you make folder ‘a’… you can add subfolder b by typing ‘a/b’

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    • Rootiest@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ah, I couldn’t find that option.

      I can add custom fields to an entry but I can’t designate them as “protected”

      Of course I also thought at first that you couldn’t attach files but I guess you can, they just didn’t seem to transfer over from my KeePass DB

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      • zeluko@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The interface is weird and unintuitive at times..
        I have a dropdown menu at the button "New custom field" and can select "Hidden".

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  • nyar@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You can have keepass on a USB drive, an exe version that doesn’t require install, along with your db.

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    • Rootiest@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You sure can.

      But that’s not perfect.
      Often businesses will lock down their computers to prevent unauthorized software from running at all, not just installing.

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      • nyar@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        And not lock down random external sites they see a user visiting every day that aren’t related to their work functions? Sounds like the SOC needs to get better at their monitoring.

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  • gentoo_biscuit@thelemmy.club ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m on Bitwarden right now and have been thinking of switching to KeePass. My issue keeping me from actually switching is the convenience factor. Can’t imagine making it even more annoying to use for my SO

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  • Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I use a yubikey on bitwarden (vaultwarden) just fine…
    Custom protected fields exist.
    And you can always hide it in a vpn.

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    • Rootiest@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I also use aYubiKey in VaultWarden but the key is not used to generate the encryption keys, only the master password is, so you don’t get that added security and benefit of the encryption keys rotating every time you save the DB.

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• Capillary7379@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I switched from keepass to vaultwarden years ago and for my usage I wouldn’t switch back.

  I needed to be able to share some passwords with other people. I think the clients are much better. I like having a website available as a backup to access a password. All in one package that works well so I don’t need separate mechanism to synchronize between different installations. I like the easy sharing secrets through links and not having to send in cleartext with emails or texts.

  And for selfhosting I like that you only need the server only for syncing newly added secrets - if vaultwarden had to be online always I’d switch back.

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