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Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 1 year agoI didn’t say it was acceptable. Frankly it’s abhorrent, but it’s the nature of consuming to do abhorrent things for short term personal gain. Do your best to consume ethically, knowing you WILL fail, and fight it as beat as you can.
You keep saying masturbating to women being raped, and that it’s not the same as using a cellphone 1. That’s not what people are doing, but nuance is hard.
- It actually is the exact same quandary. You “need” a cell phone as much as the average person “needs” porn. It makes life easier, but isn’t technically a necessity. Especially not a new, fancy name brand phone. Both are horribly unethically made, but here we are!
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
Or don’t consume, which is also an option.
No I need a cell phone to get a home, to get a job, to work a job, and therefore to survive. No one needs porn to survive.
And no a child dying isn’t an acceptable outcome of owning a phone, but me surviving is. I’m not going to become homeless in the name of ethical consumption. It wouldn’t change anything if I did, and I’d be able to do less to advocate for workers rights if I did so.
However, masturbating to women being sexually abused is not necessary for survival. You don’t have to do that. And me using a cell phone is, again, not the same as watching women being raped for sexual pleasure. The fact that you see it as the same is telling of how you see women.
To reiterate, you know that you’re watching a woman being raped and deriving sexual pleasure from that. You see this as acceptable, because otherwise you wouldn’t be able to watch porn. If you didn’t see that as acceptable you wouldn’t watch porn. Which, again, is a thing you do not need to do.
Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
We can keep doing the shit slinging all day my friend. It gets no one anywhere. Or you can have an actual conversation without trying to accuse people who are trying their best. Your choice.
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
I dont agree that you’re trying your best. So long as you’re coming to the table saying “I need to watch porn, and if I get off to a women being sexually abused then whatever it happens” I can’t agree that you’re making what I would consider to be a reasonable effort. The least you could do is, like I said before, make every effort possible to vet whatever pornographic content you consume. So that you are as certain as you possibly can be that what you’re watching isn’t sexual abuse.
Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I don’t agree you’re trying your best as long as you continue to consume even one iota of slave-produced goods.
In all honesty, if you want to try your best as an individual, then it starts with aligning yourself with other individuals. External shame and guilt are shitty motivators. Have actual discussions, with actual depth. Start with not reframing things into negative connotations needlessly, by realizing that each and every individual, yourself included, os deeply flawed and does shit they really wish they hadn’t, and have urges that do actually need to be fulfilled. Start by realizing that people taking any kind of step, even half-step, is better than shutting people out for not being perfect. Extend some empathy to people who are actually trying, who have thought about this stuff, even if they land on a slightly different space than you.
Most of the people in this thread aren’t your enemies, they’re more aligned with your beliefs than you seem to want to acknowledge. You can either accept them, actually talk, and make allies, or you can condemn and alienate them, force them out of your spaces, and into ones where people WILL talk with them, about all the ways out side is wrong.
Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Libraries exist mate. They have all the stuff you need to get a home and job publicly available.
Your convenience is worth more than a kids life, got it.
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
My job required me to have a cell phone, as did nearly every one I applied for. My apartment is paid for out of my bank account, which has no physical location and requires usage of an app to do so.
Is your sexual pleasure from watching porn worth it even if you are masturbating to women being raped?
Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Get a different bank 5head
Didn’t answer the question about what kind of phone or how old it is. If we’re going to shit sling, I’m gonna shit sling. If your phone isn’t at least 5 years old, replaced because your last one was completely unusable, you have child. Blood. On. Your. Hands.