Comment on Another 62 ‘Girls Do Porn’ Victims Sue Pornhub for $600 Million

• LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I never said masturbating to women being raped was equivalent to raping a woman. I said they’re both bad and inexcusable actions that I, and many others, are perfectly capable of entirely avoiding.

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  • Ookami38@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sure sure. Now add in a layer of deception. Let’s say PurePorn (fictional, as far as I know) has always been very good looking they sound like they pay well, are responsive to the needs and desires of all models, etc etc. From what you can tell, they’re completely ethical. The girls always seem to be enjoying themselves, it’s produced by a woman, whatever other green flags you wanna give it.

    That’s about as ethical as you can be consuming porn, right?

    Now, a few years go by, and some models come out about some truly gross stuff happening. The company gets sued, the women get recompense, yadda yadda.

    From what you, as a consumer, could have possibly known, everything was fine. Now it’s not. You immediately stop watching their videos, report them any time you see them come up, inform fellow consumers, etc

    Are you the monster here? Did you actually do anything wrong? Or were you deceived as well?

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    • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No, but I wouldn’t watch it in the first place as masturbating to someone being sexually abused is not an acceptable consequence of watching porn for me.

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      • Ookami38@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Got it, so you do take the kinda extreme view that all porn is inherently bad, as is the natural conclusion of what you’re saying. Either the consumer is omniscient or there’s a slight chance they may be perpetuating the evils present in the industry.

        Won’t argue with that stance, not on here. The level of nuance required is clearly beyond this venue. Enjoy your day.

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    • winter@slrpnk.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      All that to justify watching porn. You already said “you take every reasonable step that you can” to make sure you are consuming ethical porn. So you should be done.

      Why try so hard to defend people who, being aware that it could very well be made sexually abusing women, watch porn carelessly? Which I think is obvious the criticism was aimed to.

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      • Ookami38@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Because most people aren’t going to be aware of all of the things that happen. These companies have every reason, and most of the resources needed, to hide the shady shit they do.

        If you want to take the stance that all porn is inherently bad, fine. I’m not going to argue with you. That’s a bit extremist of a stance, and the discussion will have to have levels of nuance I’m not going to be able to articulate on on a message board. Otherwise, cut the consumer some slack, point your anger where it actually matters.

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