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subnuggurat@lemmy.world 8 months agoTBH that rant did very little to disapprove therapy might be in order
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subnuggurat@lemmy.world 8 months agoTBH that rant did very little to disapprove therapy might be in order
Sukisuki@lemmy.world 8 months ago
What part of what I said is wrong, exactly?
subnuggurat@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Right or wrong is beside the point. Therapy is about emotional balance and well-being. I sincerely hope you’re well but these kinds of rants often come across as personal anger being projected on topic x. I don’t doubt that’s how you see the world around you at the moment but not everyone does and that doesn’t mean they’re wrong, blind or stupid. Some people can see the same atrocious state you see and counterbalance it with the good they can also see around them. Being aware of our species wrong-doings is as important as becoming sensitive to its virtues. If someone can’t see any virtues at all, they’re more likely either insensitive or have been handed a very rough hand in life. Therapy can help in any of those cases.
Sukisuki@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Actually, right or wrong is the point. I’m making an argument based on facts, and your argument is based on wild assumptions about me, based on my few paragraphs, not your actual thoughts. If you had good counter points then I would change my mind, but you don’t.
The problem isn’t the hand I was dealt with - it’s everyones. I have been lucky enough to have a not too bad, not too good existence but that never stopped me from looking at the less unfortunate to understand how they live. Do you want to talk about child prostitutes, slaves, people who have to scrape food from others trash cans to eat? Living in a coffin size “apartments” in Asian slums? People who have nowhere to eat, sleep, nowhere to call theirs? Who work with their hands in awful conditions for a life for millionaires they’d never mert? Aside from people, what about the countless dead animals, for sports, just fun etc? Had to die because their forests were taken and burned? Thousands of gallons of poison in all oceans, microplastics in our veins? What kind of virtue counter-acts this kind of destruction?
See, there are so many things that we do that require rage. I am not raging about my life, I am raging about the life we created in this world for ourselves and everything else. You may choose to bury your head in the sand and keep saying “oh, there’s a virtue, my life is worth living now” when you see another rainforest burning down, or another child murdered, that means you’re desensitised. You feeling good or bad about these things don’t change a damn thing.
Also, to make it clear, antinatalists are not terrorists or something lol, they oppose pain. They simply choose not to reproduce. This isn’t as extreme as any of you are making it to be.
Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 8 months ago
Thank you. At least one person here knows what anti-natalism actually stands for. People would do good on at least reading the Wikipedia article, instead of already dooming a new community, only because on Reddit child free subreddits promoted a hostile environment. They aren’t even the same thing.
I’ve noticed however that people get incredible sensitive on the topic of “don’t have children”, where all reasoning is thrown out of the window. It’s one of those topics that clashes with the biology, psychology and social indoctrination of individuals. It’s highly unlikely to possibly discuss this with a lot of people, who lack self reflection and awareness of their surroundings. Because if we’re honest, most people live their life on auto mode anyways.
Of course unregulated subreddit or sublemmy, will unavoidably drift into the extrem. All of them have this tendency, that’s why moderators and rules are important. One might argue that it’s a natural cause of unregulated topics and discussions, as humans themselves are socially diverse and at the same time very controversial beings, whom prefer to form groups/tribes and ultimately end with a self amplifying echo chamber if not constantly reminded and course corrected.
Back to anti-natalism, people at least should understand the decision table of life vs no life, possible suffering vs no suffering. It’s simple logic in my eyes. Not even talking about the current future were heading, which in itself exposes the selfish act of reproduction.
subnuggurat@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Cool. I’m not making an argument nor countering whatever it is you believe, please don’t mistake my engagement, have zero interest in ‘discussing’ with you. I was merely answering your question about my previous comment. Live as you see fit.