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In the time travel instance, there is still two of a person if they happen to visit the same place at the same time. They have different perspectives and experiences at that point and are different people even if they are from the same origins. They don’t share a consciousness; there are now two consciousnesses.

Same deal with the transporter struggle session if it just so happens that matter was replicated (like in the comic) but the person that was to be disintegrated simply wasn’t disintegrated.

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GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I was specifically talking about forwards time travel to distinguish between someone’s mind existing in the world and them being alive as two separate states. In teh backwards timetravel example, what makes them different people? I would say legally they are the same person, and the same ethics and morals apply to them, and many people who know the version of them in the past would probably recognize them as the person they know albeit a bit different. Are you not the same person you were yesterday? Or a minute ago?

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- UlyssesT@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I suppose that’s the issue: it’s externally observed rather than internally experienced. The difference may matter for the one experiencing it rather than just being observed.
  
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  - GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    at teh end of the day we don’t have a definition of consciousness, so issues that would come down to it can’t be decided.
    
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    UlyssesT@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Perhaps not, but the first and only thing we as individuals are aware of (when we are aware) is that we are aware. The perceptions of external observers may not share that experience, but they can certainly try to invalidate it.
    
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