Comment on Philosophy meme

• 1984@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yes, those are evil people. The world is made up of both kinds. But they are a lot less, and it’s not likely that they will get the majority to accept their twisted ideas.

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  • BluesF@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Ok so who’s deciding which people are evil and which aren’t? There are plenty of wrong things (according to me, today) that have been consensus among some for hundreds or even thousands of years. Adults marrying children. Slavery. Execution of homosexuals.

    Or consider that vegan/vegetarians would say that slaughtering animals is wrong, and that they know that in the same “innate” way that you’re describing… and yet the majority disagree with them. So who’s right? Where can we get this objectivity? If it’s just our “gut” then I’m sorry but there is not a single morality, there are 7 billion separate objective moralities.

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    • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It is wrong to slaughter animals now that we have technology that makes it unnecessary. The world could stop eating meat tomorrow if there was a virus inside meat that made people sick, so why can’t we decide to do it without the virus?

      The majority disagreeing is not new. Democracy is not based on the wisest people making decisions. It’s mob rule, or majority rule. Today people just watch TV to make decisions, and TV is controlled by corporations. So we don’t really have the kind of democracy where people are well informed and feel like they can trust what someone in power is telling them.

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      • BluesF@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I agree with all of that, but I don’t see how that deals with the problem that we don’t even have consensus on a morality that we are all supposed to “know” by ourselves because it is objective and somehow contained within us. Why is there such disagreement on what is moral if we should all know what’s right?

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  • m0darn@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Should children be raised by parents that are neglecting them (not educating them, not preparing them for anything other than subsistence living) or is it moral for the state to take the kids away?

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    • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t think it’s moral for the state to take the kids away, unless the kid requests it. Even kids knows when they are being abused and if it’s bad enough, they should have the choice to leave. That being said, the state doesn’t care at all about them. It’s only marginally better than living with parents that don’t care about them.

      Perhaps there should be some kind of certificate to become a parent, but that will most likely be abused and become too controlling.

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      • m0darn@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Perhaps there should be some kind of certificate to become a parent, but that will most likely be abused and become too controlling.

        Yeah it could, but if we could put that aside how do you think the state should handle children conceived out of wedlock I mean without permission.

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