Comment on Living to 120 is becoming an imaginable prospect

• Clbull@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I think things are gonna get really ugly in the next twenty years.

  We’re nearing a point where artificial intelligence can replace a lot of white collar and logistical jobs, which would skyrocket unemployment rates and lead to widespread riots.

  Don’t get me started on what a leftist pipe dream universal basic income is. The guaranteed income UBI would give would either bankrupt our economy or be such a pittance that nobody could live off of it

  And before you suggest automation and wealth taxes would pay for UBI… good luck with that. We can’t even get the rich to pay their fair share of taxes right at this moment.

  Given how much politicians serve the rich, I think they’d sooner sic the military on protesters than actually cave in to the demands of the masses.

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  • kava@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • Clbull@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But it is. It may not be Communist or Socialist but it’s a radical idea to redistribute wealth to the masses and effectively create a literal welfare state. Pretty much every party that supports UBI is left wing.

      If 50% of the young people in the country aren’t working, you’re either going to see a massive prison complex or a militant revolt. Probably both.

      I think we’ll see a full societal collapse in the next few decades, whether that’s a descent into lawless anarchy or civil wars.

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      • kava@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Ok we should have a clear definition of what left means so this conversation is clear. My definition of left is socialism and communism. Welfare capitalism is still right wing. Please feel free to share yours and we can see where we differ

        UBI is an attempt to keep the capitalist state going through this radical change. Fundamentally, nothing changes. The people with capital still control the capital. Companies still exist and make profit in a market structure.

        People aren’t really suggesting this because they want to pay taxes. They are suggesting this because they are scared of the system falling apart. Do you have any other solutions? I really don’t think there’s a way to keep our current capitalist system and not have a UBI if +50% aren’t working.

        If we allow the system to collapse, we risk too much. Nazi Germany style authoritarian government with the current surveillance state capacities we have is an incredibly scary thought. They’re even working on mind reading - they’ve done small scale experiments where machine learning models can listen to your brain waves and see what you are thinking.

        We cannot allow fascism to have a serious resurgence. It’s too dangerous.

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