The argument can be made that bots measuring the content are no better than some random dude on the Internet reposting shit they like. Situation becomes worse when that same "bot" doesn't credit the author. proper.
Comment on Lemmy instances that are focused on mirroring Reddit content?
Levsgetso@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
I see what you’re trying to accomplish and congratulate you for trying to make Lemmy a better place, but I don’t think it’s a good idea. As many people here I’ve blocked @bot@lemmit.online precisely because it just posts Reddit content and floods my feed, with what is basically spam. Also many people came here just to avoid Reddit and to try and make something better. Sure, when 0.19.0 comes out and people will be able to block instances, lemmings will have a choice if they want to see that instance, but what about new users, or people just checking Lemmy out? Do we really want them to see reposted reddit content? Because they can already do this on reddit. What we need is to stop being so invested in “our ex” and just grow as a community, in a natural way.
vintprox@kbin.melroy.org 1 year ago
Levsgetso@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Memes are meant to be shared, and it’s a great way to grow small communities. Karma whoring is not that big here since reputation points are not shown (at least in the webUI). So a person will post a few memes and could start a conversation, something a bot can’t do.
vintprox@kbin.melroy.org 1 year ago
Whether the meme is meant to be shared in some other context or not, I think, is the decision that should be based on the sum of copyright liberation and how generalistic contents are. Today, I can't bear a thought of reposting some stranger's niche meme on social media without attaching a source/creator, because I'm most likely making one more point where engagement with the same meme ends - and reposting full works doesn't qualify as commentary/criticism/research, so it's not a fair use, to begin with.
That's why we are correct of assuming the worst from the bots: programming any fair use considerations is left to gather dust, as it's ultimately left for human to decide such things.
rglullis@communick.news 1 year ago
Wait, how come does it flood “your” feed if the lemmit bot only posts to their own instance/communities? If you are browsing with the “all” view, it’s not really your feed.
Apologies for the “you’re holding it wrong” response, but maybe it would be better if you just start browsing the specific communities that you want to follow?
Levsgetso@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
It’s seems like you ignored my point entirely just to argue on a technicality. As I asked, should Reddit content reposted by bots be something a new user should see?
Also browsing /all is a great way to discover new communities, but even if you don’t browse it bot communities find their way into the discover communities tab, which makes it more difficult for people find the communities that they want to follow.
rglullis@communick.news 1 year ago
Okay, I am starting to realize that most people are looking at the word “bot” and stop reading the rest of the description.
The point of fediverser is not about creating an army of bots or a fully automated content firehose. The point of fediverser is to have a tool that gives a way for humans to bring content that they want to have on the fediverse. The mirrored instance and the bot accounts are just a mechanism to (1) facilitate the curating process, (2) automate the posting of content that has been curated and (3) to keep a bridge with Reddit which can help redditors to signup to Lemmy in a frictionless-way.
All this work started because I spent almost 3 months bootstraping !emacs@communick.news by doing the following:
At no point the idea is to:
I’ve repeated multiple times in this thread and in the original announcement, but I can do it yet again: the main usage of fediverser is for people that do not want to use reddit but still are interested in interacting with niche communities.