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MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 5 weeks agoYes, I know. Like I said, “can’t” do the math expected of their employees for their work. Theare able to measure the kilowats going into millions of homes, but can’t measure the kilowatts they consume. So they get potentially 90% of the electricity dirt cheep, but charge everybody as if they paid the highest price on the market for all of it.
Womble@piefed.world 5 weeks ago
It’s not that they “cant figure it out”, its that its a reverse auction where everyone gets paid the lowest price that is needed to provide the last bit of capacity. Why should a solar plant get paid 20% of what the gas plant gets paid just because they are more efficient?
That marginally cheap sources like solar or nuclear get paid a large profit for each kwh is a good thing, it encourages more of them to be build and over time push out the expensive marginal cost of gas (and coal where it’s still used).
MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Are you sure that is what is happening? I doubt the utility is paying the solar supplier more than their stated price. That is not how Capitalism works over here.
Womble@piefed.world 1 day ago
That is exactly what happens, each potential provider says “I will sell you Y amount of power for at least X price” the grid tots up the offers going from cheapest up until they have enough generating capacity and then pay all the providers the highest price they needed to get to. This is all public so they cant pay the cheap provider less than the expensive one, because they can just turn round and raise their price to that same highest price, knowing that the provider wold lose more money to go to everyone else.
(They actually do it the other way round, start at the highest price and keep lowering it and having providers drop out, until too many drop out and then the previous price is set for everyone that’s still in. But it has the same end result, everyone gets paid the lowest price that enough people are willing to sell at in order to cover demand.)