Comment on How do left-leaning—or not even left-leaning, but pro-choice, pro-life people who don’t care about fornication—who are also Catholics and Christians justify their religion?

• KombatWombat@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I believe you are right for the old testament commandments, but it does seem like cherry picking to say the early restrictions should only apply to the Israelites, and later verses that would expand the scope in letters from Paul shouldn’t be accepted.

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  • SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s not cherry picking to recognize who was talking to who, and whether or not their words should be taken as divine instruction to each individual who reads them. It’s just using your head instead of letting religious authorities put onerous demands on the populace. Jesus said love your neighbor as you love yourself and do unto others as you’d have them do unto you. Anything that contradicts that is obviously not to be taken seriously.

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    • KombatWombat@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s cherry picking because it’s choosing which pieces of the bible to give credence to and which to ignore based on preference. Paul was chosen as God’s chosen vessel; I don’t see why his instructions to the early church should be cast aside.

      Jesus did say to love thy neighbor, yet it is easy to find examples of God condoning slavery and demanding genocides. Unless you intend to also deny those parts, it’s pretty clear he’s willing to contradict that commandment against whoever he considers sinful. For gay men, he prescribed the death penalty, although that was part of the covenant with Israel. I don’t think the new testament says how they should be punished, just that it’s a sin.

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      • SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It’s cherry picking because it’s choosing which pieces of the bible to give credence to and which to ignore based on preference.

        Absolutely not. You can give 100% credence to the bible without the idea that every single word of it is a personal commandment from God to you.

        Paul was chosen as God’s chosen vessel

        I don’t agree. How do you now that? By what means was this determined?

        Jesus did say to love thy neighbor, yet it is easy to find examples of God condoning slavery and demanding genocides.

        No, it’s easy to find stories where people claimed God condoned those things. You seem to be taking a fundamentalist approach to scripture here, and it’s an approach I just don’t agree with. It’s based on traditions created and perpetuated by the sickest, most evil, lying, stealing, child-raping people throughout history. Why the fuck would you take their word for it?

        Anyway nice talkin to ya, have a nice day.

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