Comment on Is there anywhere on this site you've found decent discussion across the aisle?

• No1RivenFucker@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Once again, objectively false. The party does not support those ideals.

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  • BURN@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Except they do

    The repeal of Roe v Wade

    Endorsement of a president who has had multiple sexual assault suits against him

    The GOPs refusal to adhere to court orders about redistributing Alabama because it’s gerrymandered to have the majority of the black population in one district. This minimizes the representation they’re able to have.

    Florida trying to ban healthcare for adults because they’re afraid of trans people

    The Supreme Court openly saying that gay marriage is something the conservative justices would like to revisit

    There’s countless more examples of the party endorsing and supporting racist, homophobic, transphobic and sexist policies.

    But evidence doesn’t matter to you, so I’m sure this will fall on deaf ears

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    • No1RivenFucker@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The repeal of Roe v Wade

      Which has nothing to do with the topic. The fundamental question of the abortion debate is one of life and responsibility. Not the spam CNN feeds you about sexism.

      Endorsement of a president who has had multiple sexual assault suits against him

      Irrelevant, not a policy position

      The GOPs refusal to adhere to court orders about redistributing Alabama because it’s gerrymandered to have the majority of the black population in one district. This minimizes the representation they’re able to have.

      The court is not an automatic source of justice. Frequently the opposite.

      Florida trying to ban healthcare for adults because they’re afraid of trans people

      Isn’t happening

      The Supreme Court openly saying that gay marriage is something the conservative justices would like to revisit

      Because it was an insanely flimsy case on crappy logic.

      There’s countless more examples of the party endorsing and supporting racist, homophobic, transphobic and sexist policies.

      If they’re as bad as your last set of examples, don’t bother

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      • BURN@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I could spend a half hour getting sources for all of those and more, but I’m sure it’d be wasted effort on you.

        You also conveniently worked around the most major aspect of every point to attempt to make it about something else.

        Roe v Wade is very relevant. It is an anti-science position that actively harms women. That’s very clear, especially as the Republican Party is very worried about the fact that it has galvanized a large contingent of the population against them.

        Endorsement of a president who is a serial sexual assulter is a policy position, and like it or not, who you endorse is a major part of how politics work. The person and their views are then reflected on you.

        The court may not be right every time, but it is right this time. This is the second map that has been rejected by a different court for still being racially based and used to disenfranchise black voters.

        Florida absolutely is trying to ban gender-affirming surgery for adults. They just do it in roundabout ways like requiring a form that has not (and likely will not) be created. thehill.com/policy/healthcare/…/amp/

        Obergefell was a sound case and there’s no need to revisit it unless the goal is removing legal protections for gay marriage.

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