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Comment on Reason #72151 why I don't tolerate Neelix hate

Well...if you want to go there...

Neelix tells Seven that he was around the planet for about a year before Voyager shows up. Kes wasn't even 2 at that point. He explicitly states that he and Kes were "getting close" during that year. At most, Kes was maybe 7 months old when she met Neelix. And he pursued a relationship, with a whole lot of jealously involved, in that year. In human terms, she was likely about 13 or 14 year old...maybe younger.

It's a perfectly fair complaint.

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Stamets@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
No. It is not even remotely a perfectly fair complaint and it has already been explained why.

You are using human standards and forcing them upon two aliens. The age that Kes and Neelix met and started to get to know one another are utterly irrelevant without information about Ocampan maturity rates.

I am not continuing this nonsense.

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- Bonehead@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Human or not, engaging in a relationship with someone that hasn't fully matured let alone reached age of procreation is a little creepy. We know enough about Ocampans to know they don't teach maturity by 6 months old, or even 1 year old. This should not be normalized...
  
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  - Stamets@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    Human or not, engaging in a relationship with someone that hasn’t fully matured let alone reached age of procreation is a little creepy.
    
    For the third time, you are using human standards and forcing them upon two aliens.
    
    I’m not continuing this.
    
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    Bonehead@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    The real question should be why are you so offended by this entire idea of recognizing inappropriate relationships regardless of whether humans are involved or not? Yes, these are aliens. Yes, I'm applying human standards to aliens. That's what all of these TV shows are, allegories to human situations. The entire reason we have forums like this is to talk about these human situations.
    
    You can upset and run away all you want. All it does is kill the conversation, which I guess is what you wanted anyways. But it still doesn't change the fact that this is humans writing stories about aliens, not actual aliens. Applying human standards is not a bad thing.
    
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