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fracture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 hours agoyea if it’s implying that men are only worth being with because of their looks, it’s sexist, yea. it’s not as sexist because there’s not a societally ingrained idea that a man’s core worth is in his looks. so it’s not like it’s equivalent. but it’s almost like there are different prejudices to different genders
or have you not heard enough people talk about women like they’re worthless because of a perceived lack of attractiveness
zeejoo@thelemmy.club 1 hour ago
I asked a genuine question politely, you can drop the snark.
I agree that if the implication that their husbands would sleep around with other men exclusively because their wives are ugly, then it’d be misogynistic. But that’s not the implication of the meme, at least not as I saw it.
These women chose to wear a specific type of outfit, a specific type of makeup, dye their hair a specific way, and get specific cosmetic surgeries to fit into the toxic world they live in. They choose to look like this. It’s a uniform. Nobody is making fun of their bone structure, bodies, etc. They’re making fun of choices they made aesthetically that comedically also reflect the toxic and ugly nature of their politics. The character flaws that led to those choices also led many of them to have shallow marriages of convenience. That is what I saw as the joke of the meme.
fracture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 minutes ago
it’s snark, but it’s genuine, too. some people really haven’t heard it. but sure, i could have said it better, that’s fair
the issue is that there are women who have these traits independent of if they happen to belong this “costume”. it’s a look, but it falls within normal human variance. in essence, you’ve said any women who even vaguely has traits like this is a ghoul. besides, people should be allowed to choose how they look
it’s also using the bludgeoning of the oppressor on people you happen to have moral standing over. this meme is still ultimately about their fuckability. sure, you may find them (physically) unfuckable because you believe their appearance is a reflection of their morals. but it’s still not OK to reduce women to their fuckability. it’s the same shit people do when they misgender shitty trans people. it reduces baseline respect to privilege that can be revoked. that’s not baseline respect then lol
(aside, i don’t think the “happen to have marriages of convenience” necessarily follows from the outfit. it might, i guess, i haven’t really looked into the marriage success rates of this group of people. but it’s not like average success rates of marriage are anything to write home about, either)
finally, i would hope that the people in this thread who are being SUPER misogynist about it are like… putting you off. i feel like it’s not great if people are supporting misogyny in your not-misogynistic meme!
this could have been captioned “pedophile wives cabal” or something and i think that would have been fine. re: the above “using the bludgeoning of the oppressor”, it’s always worth questioning yourself about whether you’re dunking on them because they’re shitty people or because they’re women who happen to be shitty people