Comment on Online age-verification tools spread across U.S. for child safety, but adults are being surveilled
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 22 hours agoHow about a system where I can go physically to a shop, show them my id, then the clerk allows me to buy a box of tokens that I picked up from the shelf.
I can pay with cash, the clerk just looks at my face and ID, nothing gets entered into the system.
Then I have a bag of tokens that could have various expire dates. Some could last years. They are not tied to any person in anyway but only adults could access them.
And yes, I can totally give it to some kids, but that’s no different than me buying kids alcohol.
Kraiden@piefed.social 22 hours ago
I mean, yes, it’s the same process. It’s just moving the convenience store to your phone, and instead of being issued a physical ID by the dmv or whoever, you’re given a digital one. To be clear, that ID, and therefore your information is stored locally on your device, not in a server somewhere.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
While I would trust that for a FOSS app, it would be too easy for a proprietary app to just “backup” your data.
With the physical method, everyone can be sure they are anonymous through common sense.
Kraiden@piefed.social 21 hours ago
Sure, but I have 2 counterpoints:
There’s no reason the 3rd party app needs to be proprietary. This is starting to get technical, but my understanding is that you get a cert from the requester, and it’s the combination of that with the state issued magic cert that’s used for validation. The 3rd party app is essentially just a calculator. It doesn’t need any certs of its own
That’s an implementation detail. My argument is that it’s the implementation that’s the real cause for concern here, not the idea