Comment on System76 on Age Verification Laws

• RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  So a law that is deliberately done in the least invasive way, sets a president to push invasive and manipulative shit?

  Can you explain how? Like in any way? When it’s clearly going to reduce the manipulation of kids.

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  • jjlinux@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Know what? I’ll bite. Let’s have a civil discussion how this is either actually beneficial to ‘save the kids’ or, on the other hand, this is just the first step of a process designed to force full surveillance at the OS level, now that people are finally starting to care a bit about their privacy.

    If it is to do something to keep the kids away from harm (you mentioned to reduce manipulation of kids) how does spinning 3 wheels with numbers, attached to no verification whatsoever, help? This is that useless ‘Are you over 18?’ pop-up all over again, where you just click ‘yes’ and move on with whatever it is you wanted to get away with. So, on that front, unless this is designed to put undue extra responsibility and work on the OS developers, this makes no sense (of course, I’m more than willing to hear you counter this theory).

    Now, if it’s just that first step, the politicians trying to see what else they can get away with pushing on the population, one step at a time, next they will add ‘the OS will require a picture of the user holding an ID to confirm the entered date of birth, but it will remain local, the OS will just reply yes or no to the apps requesting the info’. Then it’ll be ‘will be sent to a government database for safeguarding’, and so on until you no longer can get away from not showing your face and ID to everyone out there.

    Anyway, which one makes more sense to you, honestly?

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    • RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Slippery nipples for everyone!

      It’s crazy that the reddit/Lemmy hivemind opposes the most mild regulations on predatory app stores and the argument is well this law is fine but it COULD slippery nipples our way to a much worse law that is completely different in its form and intent than this law.

      I guess you can take the corporate surveillance out of reddit, but you can’t take the libertarian instincts out of the redditors.

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      • jjlinux@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Hardly a ‘hive mind’ situation when everything governments all over the world and big corporations have shown, time and again, that they will step up the surveillance any chance they get, try to get away with it, and if they do (which happens all too often), step it up yet again, rinse and repeat.

        But you follow your optimistic way of view, at least you’ll be happier than most of us until you see how right we’ve been all along.

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