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the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

People get offended when customers are swindled. And Apple are expert swindlers.

So it’s a case of “everyone’s stupid except for me”?

No better example than the headphone jack.

Incredibly vocal minority on reddit/Lemmy aside, your average consumer doesn’t give a shit about having a 3.5 jack in their phone. The market prefers thinner, lighter, and better waterproofing. Know how I know? Because if there was a big market for a phone with a 3.5 jack, someone would be making it, and lots of people would be buying it. It’s not saving these companies a ton on manufacturing to not include one. They cost pennies each when purchased in bulk.

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hanrahan@slrpnk.net ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Know how I know? Because if there was a big market for a phone with a 3.5 jack, someone would be making it, and lots of people would be buying it.

that’s not how it works, so I’d argue you don’t know… as Jobs said, he’ll tell you what you want.

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- the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Jobs is dead, had been dead for 5 years when apple removed the 3.5 jack, and was never in charge of the myriad other phone manufacturers who also removed their 3.5 jacks. I’m not sure he’s as relevant here as you’re implying.
  
  Anyway, as an adult, “company made a product that isn’t catered to my specific preferences” is well below my threshold for outrage. I actually can’t imagine living like that. It must be horrible.
  
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artyom@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

So it’s a case of “everyone’s stupid except for me”?

No, lots of other people also understand that they’re swindlers.

your average consumer doesn’t give a shit about having a 3.5 jack in their phone

*Whoosh*. It wasn’t about “the average consumer”, it’s about why people are upset about trends in a market, even if it’s not something they would ever buy.

It’s not saving these companies a ton on manufacturing to not include one. They cost pennies each when purchased in bulk.

LOL you actually thought this ever had anything to do with saving money? Did you not notice that they also released another product simultaneously that now makes enough money on its own to be a Fortune 500 company? They created a problem and then immediately turned around and sold people a solution. Absolute masterclass in swindling.

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- the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  No, lots of other people also understand that they’re swindlers.
  
  And lots of other people like their stuff and might want to buy this. I’m not one of them, but I’m happy they can get something they like. Why isn’t that good enough?
  
  It wasn’t about “the average consumer”
  
  It’s absolutely about the average consumer. Do you honestly believe Samsung removed the 3.5 jack simply because apple did and they’re conditioned to follow apple? They follow money. The money is in thinner, lighter, and better water resistance. The money is there because that’s what the average consumer actually wants.
  
  Did you not notice that they also released another product simultaneously that now makes enough money on its own to be a Fortune 500 company?
  
  And how does that help the competing manufacturers who also removed their 3.5 jack?
  
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  - artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    
    Why isn’t that good enough?
    
    Why isn’t people liking something they were swindled into paying way too much money for not good enough? Do you really have to ask that?
    
    It’s absolutely about the average consumer
    
    It’s absolutely not. It’s not about what the consumer wants at all. These companies didn’t remove them because customers wanted them removed. They removed so that they couldn’t use them anymore.
    
    And how does that help the competing manufacturers who also removed their 3.5 jack?
    
    Because they also made buckets of money removing them. Every fucking one of them removed the jack and then immediately introduced new Bluetooth headphones that were several hundred dollars. Even Fairphone went down this hole.
    
    No one makes money selling $7 wired headphones.
    
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