The best analogy I’ve heard for this… "Parents to be doing the parenting, versus, a government doing parenting and unbeknownst apples it to everyone ". And it is speaking of widely available tools that are already available such as parental controls in routers, devices, etc.
The analogy discounts “little hackers” or minors that intentionally will break laws to get what they want; in which then no “age verification” service (made by anyone) will work in practice.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
widely available? what kind of parental controls are available in
?
VicksVaporBBQrub@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
Windows has Limited User account, Family Safety in the control panel, and a advanced Firewall. 3rd party Net Nanny was\is a net filtering\alerting software that had visiting-server-side support in case the kid knew how to onion route or obfuscate a url or ip.
Androids can install firewall software like PersonalDNSFilter, AdGuardDNS, or RethinkDNS (the premium version creates for you a custom dns server – no software needed.
Pi-Hole is a hardware thing you attach to your network.
There should be plenty more.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
limited, as in, not an administrator? that does not help much with limiting a kids computer use.
family safety only works for the microsoft edge browser, which is not at all private. and it seems it requires a microsoft account, and accepting its shitty terms of service and privacy policy.
netnanny seems to require a microsoft account too.
and they can’t be just disabled by the user of the device, right?
these and pihole… are useful but not for this. even if they can’t disable the system VPN app, the kid just enables secure DNS in either firefox or chrome, and bam! its worked around.
VicksVaporBBQrub@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
Correct. A (non-admistrator) user of a Android cannot disable software.
Pi-Hole + packet inspection + whitelisting + switch routing = universal lockdown against every known form of data obfuscation. This is now a server machine.