I cannot read in Ukrainian, but if the article contains independent verification of the tens of thousands figure, I’d love to see that section translated. What you quoted are anecdotal events, not evidence of tens of thousands, which is what I’m questioning. I’m not doubting some war crimes are being carried out, of course thats the case, I’m just saying they’re not nearly widespread enough to constitute genocide, as evidenced by the lack of support by essentially any country to such claims.
You can leave the conversation if you want, but the figure of “tens of thousands” literally comes from the Ukrainian government. Per the Wikipedia article of the Abductions:
Ukrainian authorities have verified the identities of over 19,000 abducted children, compiling and actively updating the data as part of an online platform: “Children of War”
You are free to believe this figure if you want, but you’ll also be called on it when you use it to justify baseless claims of genocide which minimize what’s happening in Palestine.
nat1@ttrpg.network 6 hours ago
So the person who believes Soviet documentation, will turn around and not believe Ukrainian documentation. How convenient this makes your genocide denial.
You even link to the site showing where you can browse the tens of thousands of missing Ukrainian children, and see the ones who have been returned. You can find testimonials from those returned children, but still you believe Russian war time propaganda over that.
The utter arrogance and hate to call these unjustified claims when they are backed up by evidence is astounding, but one should expect no less from someone so ideologically driven to manipulate and distort to fit their narrative.
Riverside@reddthat.com 5 hours ago
Yes, I can browse unconfirmed pictures, not very useful
Returned? How? Wasn’t Russia kidnapping them? Why would they return children kidnapped with genocidal intent?
Again, I’m not doubting the existence of war crimes and of some children being kidnapped, I’m doubting the propagandistic numbers about it until I have independent journalistic confirmation of the scope of it. Doubting Nayirah’s Testimony was the correct choice 30 years ago.