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rah@hilariouschaos.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Which is why I said hypothetically…

I think you may have misused the word “hypothetically” then.

up until a year ago the very idea that quantum entanglement could happen in the brain was treated as a joke for like 30 years

I was taught Orch OR theory at university about 17 years ago.

that’s why the larger theory was instantly dismissed

Instantly dismissed by who? It’s a new theory, there will always be detractors and critics of new theories. That’s very different from being “instantly dismissed”.

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givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

I think you may have misused the word “hypothetically” then

I 100% did

I was taught Orch OR theory at university about 17 years ago

Then you were also taught that there was no way the brain could maintain sustained quantum entanglement

It’s a new theory

I mean, frame of reference…

You said you learned it 17 years ago, that’s not very “new”.

But compared to any other science, all of psychology is incredibly “new”.

I’m multitasking bro, this ain’t that deep

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- rah@hilariouschaos.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  Then you were also taught that there was no way the brain could maintain sustained quantum entanglement
  
  No. I’ve no idea what could have possibly brought you to that conclusion.
  
  Please don’t try to tell me what brought you to that conclusion while multitasking. For that matter, please don’t try to tell me at all.
  
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  - givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    No. I’ve no idea what could have possibly brought you to that conclusion
    
    Luckily it’s easy to find research from that period:
    
    This model requires that the tubulin is able to switch between alternative conformational states in a coherent manner, and that this process be rapid on the physiological time scale. Here, the biological feasibility of the Orch OR proposal is examined in light of recent experimental studies on microtubule assembly and dynamics. It is shown that the tubulins do not possess essential properties required for the Orch OR proposal, as originally proposed, to hold. Further, we consider also recent progress in the understanding of the long-lived coherent motions in biological systems, a feature critical to Orch OR, and show that no reformation of the proposal based on known physical paradigms could lead to quantum computing within microtubules. Hence, the Orch OR model is not a feasible explanation of the origin of consciousness.
    
    journals.aps.org/pre/…/PhysRevE.80.021912
    
    I rember that time as well, although it seems my memory is better than yours, despite you being waaaaaaay more confident.
    
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    rah@hilariouschaos.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    Hence, the Orch OR model is not a feasible explanation of the origin of consciousness.
    
    One paper claiming that the Orch OR model is not a feasible explanation of the origin of consciousness does not mean that the Orch OR model is not a feasible explanation of the origin of consciousness.
    
    it seems my memory is better than yours
    
    I’m not sure why you think my memory is in any way relevant.
    
    Published 13 August, 2009
    
    There’s a significant journey from being published in a paper to being taught in classes. I was taught Orch OR somewhere between 2008 and 2010 so there’s no reason to think memory comes into it.
    
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