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• maniclucky@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The test was ‘don’t use slurs’. I suspect you have larger issues if that is the hill you want to die on.

  I’m autistic. I don’t like seeing that word come back. So I called out shit behavior. Have some godsdamned creativity if you’re going to insult people. Don’t emulate the people you’re insulting.

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  • Retail4068@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    As usual with all things, it’s a spectrum when, where, and what I’ll use. And I think it’s plenty appropriate to direct it to hurt these fascist nazis.

    But to be clear, no I will not pass your test to never use any slur in any context. I don’t think most people would, even on the progressive side of the spectrum. Nor do I think the bar will remain the same for certain people and they are just annoying people into fascism over every single fucking micro aggression.

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    • maniclucky@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So. Coming down from my high horse and taking a breath. A good faith question for you? I can understand the first paragraph and disagree with the second, but I would like to let that go for just a second.

      Why are you attached to this word? They defend pedophiles, the steal from the poor, they commit atrocities, and they do really bizarre shit like wearing diapers because their leader is incontinent. I get the ‘hit them with what hurts’ angle and can’t say whether or not it’s effective. Is casually hurting others, because two different people in these comments have positively asserted that they were offended, worth not choosing a different word?

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      • Retail4068@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Because I believe it does hurt them and shame them more forcefully and is more effective conveying the degree of stupidity. I also think, tangentially (like wild), that Internet culture change vastly outpaces built-in generationally learned norms and that young people interact with older more than ever. And the amount of change desired, among a billion other more important factors but a factor none the less, is essentially ‘annoying people into fascism’. Especially in non formal settings, outside the workspace, legal language,Again, small factor in a while lot of things. 

        Some people are going to be full on charge. Some will think you are silly and over reacting. Sometimes, is an education thing and they are genuinely happy to learn. But if not, you insisting is essentially using political or social capital in various different ways.

        It’s not really my hill to die on. I just think they are a lost cause and I want to hurt and shame them at this point and think most people (maybe not on fediverse) enjoy hearing them described as such.

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      • jmankman@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Language is about intent.

        I think “Jap” is one of the dumbest slurs there is, since it’s just cutting off two letters from the country, and I’m not offended when I hear it, I just laugh.

        There is an entire South Park episode on people changing the way they use “fag” from slander against gays, to slander against Harley motorcycle riders. You are one of the gays in this episode who doesn’t understand the intent behind why/how the way the word is used changes

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• StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Oof. Way to embody your slur of choice.

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