Comment on LLMs are surprisingly great at compressing images and audio, DeepMind researchers find

PlexSheep@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• rubikcuber@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The research specifically looked at lossless algorithms, so gzip

  “For example, the 70-billion parameter Chinchilla model impressively compressed data to 8.3% of its original size, significantly outperforming gzip and LZMA2, which managed 32.3% and 23% respectively.”

  However they do say that it’s not especially practical at the moment, given that gzip is a tiny executable compared to the many gigabytes of the LLM’s dataset.

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  • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Do you need the dataset to do the compression? Is the trained model not effective on its own?

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    • Tibert@compuverse.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Well from the article a dataset is required, but not always the heavier one.

      Tho it doesn’t solve the speed issue, where the llm will take a lot more time to do the compression.

      gzip can compress 1GB of text in less than a minute on a CPU, an LLM with 3.2 million parameters requires an hour to compress

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  • Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Runlength-encoding algorithms (like the ones in GZIP) aren’t especially amazing at compression, they’re more of a balance between speed and compression ability plus they’re meant to compress streams of bytes as the bytes come in.

    There are better algorithms from achieving maximum compression such as substitution ones (were bytes and sets of bytes are replaced by bit sequences, the most common ones getting the shortest bit sequence, the second most common the second shortest one and so on) but they’re significantly slower and need to analyse the entire file to be compressed before compressing it (and the better you want the compression to be, the more complex the analysis and the slower it gets).

    Maybe the LLMs can determine upfront the most common character patterns (I use “patterns” here because it might be something more complex that mere sequences, for example a pattern could be for characters in slots 0, 3 and 4 whilst a sequence would be limited to 0, 1 and 2) and are thus much faster and more thorough at doing the analysis stage or just use it as a pre-analysed frequency model for character patterns in a given language which is superior to general run-length encoding compression (whose frequence “analysis”-ish is done as the bytes in the stream are coming in)

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