Comment on Martin Scorsese urges filmmakers to fight comic book movie culture: ‘We’ve got to save cinema’

• MudMan@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I think you're maybe mixing up "being political" with "being propagandistic". Those aren't the same thing.

  BTTF or Guardians 3 are political in that they have a built-in political view. They're movies where reality is painted from a specific perspective and lines up with a certain worldview. They're not selling you on that perspective actively, it's built into the narrative as a framing, consicous or subsconscious (it's more subconscious in BTTF, more conscious in G3).

  Die Hard is a bit of a different beast there. It may not be outright propagandistic or jingoistic, but it sure is flirting with that borderline there.

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  • SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I absolutely agree that politics can be subtle and unintentional but to classify a movie with the word “political” as a topic unto itself implies an intentionally present political message.

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    • MudMan@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I'd argue it implies a noticeable or identifiable political framing, but I don't think intentionality is the line.

      But hey, at that point we're debating what we name it. I'd argue that we want to have a name for it, and if you don't want to call it "political" I'm struggling to think what else to use. It's not simply thematic, because a theme can be different from an implicit political worldview. A movie can be about, say, coming of age, thematically, but that's different from its political framing.

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