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Comment on Estonian state trialing IT system free from US tech giants

eleitl@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

You first start with building a domestic cloud infrastructure. And mandating by law use of it for critical services.

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fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Chew gum and walk at the same time.

Move to FOSS apps. Move away from proprietary SaaS to FOSS SaaS or even IaaS. Move to open standards (qcow vs vmdk, odt vs docx, etc). Move from proprietary OSs to FOSS ones.

The real limitation is, well budget to invest in administration and software development (which moves costs from OpEx to CapEx), and an “innovation budget” which the most amount of new things an orgs given domain experts can juggle at the same time.

That said if have the orgs move to SaaS Element, half self host, some stragglers bridge teams, outliers bridge XMPP, etc etc. It doesn’t matter it helps push the ball forward for all of the teams. If some move LibreOffice, some OnlyOffice, some just start forcing their Microsoft Office systems to save to OpenDocument formats, etc etc

All push the ball, every step liberates them a little more so they can more easily do more!

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- eleitl@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  You can already deploy free/libre software to proprietary clouds, so that is not a blocker. What is missing is legislation preferring free/libre solutions to proprietary ones, and building up domestic workforce who can directly support them, rather than buying licenses for support of software downstream of open source projects from US vendors.
  
  Cina does it, fat chance of EU being able to do a damn thing though. Particularly tiny, permanently subsidized demographically challenged countries like Estonia.
  
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  - fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Right cloud migration to sovereignty to me is SaaS --> PaaS/FossApp --> IaaS/FOSSPaaS/FossApp --> HybridCloud(FOSS IaaS onPrem, shared FOSS PaaS in both) --> MultiCloud
    
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    eleitl@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Looks good to me. But without at least some borderline functional (e.g. Hetzner, StackIt) sovereign domestic cloud vendors you’ve still got all your eggs in one US-owned bucket. Everybody knew that, but nobody cared until the rooster crowed.
    
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