Comment on Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney supports the $900 million lawsuit against Valve, arguing Steam is "the only major store still holding onto payment ties and 30% junk fee"

masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• nednobbins@lemmy.zip ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Valve doesn’t overcharge me.

  They provide an excellent user experience. They have one of the few stores where you can actually get reliable user reviews. Their return policies are generous. I’ve never had any problems with fraud or scams. Their search and recommendation functions are pretty good.

  To me, that’s a great deal and they’ve earned every penny of their markup.

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  • smeg@infosec.pub ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And if their percentage was unreasonably high, their competitors would sell at lower prices. Strangely, they don’t. Which tells us that Tim’s complaints are nothing but bullshit.

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    • E_coli42@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They don’t because they are not allowed to. Valve makes game developers sign a contract that if they want their game on Valve, they cannot put it at a lower price on any other store.

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  • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Vale literally and probably does and has. 30% of revenue is not a reasonable fee for basically anything. That’s a Mafia markup.

    Like lmfao, it takes dozens to hundred of devs like 5-7 years to make a game like Baldur’s Gate, and you think that Valve deserves 30% of all of their sales for managing the same basic storefront they built 20 years ago.

    That’s absurd.

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    • nednobbins@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “overcharge” is entirely in the eye of the purchaser not the devs. Given the difference in user experience between Steam and any other launcher (sadly even/especially GOG), Steam charges less than I’d be willing to pay.

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      • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        No, it’s a fucking monopoly 30% extortion fee.

        Like honestly, have you ever even contemplated running business in your life?

        What do you think you pay 30% of REVENUE for? Go ahead and list of out expenses for any normal business that chew up 30% of revenue. We’ll wait to see how comparable they are to the glory that is Steam’s two decade old launcher.

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• curiousaur@reddthat.com ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  How has valve been overcharging when devs and publishers set the prices on steam?

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  • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Because of Valve taking a 30% cut of revenue of every sale.

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