This whole thing is fucking stupid. Stop issuing non-real IDs and be done with it
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 10 hours ago
For anyone as confused as me (OP’s link let to a blank page for me, so no help there), I generated a brief summary of the Real ID Wikipedia article.
Regulations now in place still are less stringent as I know them to be for domestic flights, and ID regulations in general, in European countries, but I now know that in the US there has always been a broad resistance against mandatory ID’s, mainly because of the implications on personal freedom and privacy.
This probably also explains the somewhat heated comments in this thread.
Here is the summary:
The Real ID Act of 2005 is a federal law that establishes minimum security standards for state-issued driver’s licenses and identification cards in the United States. Passed in response to the 9/11 attacks, its primary purpose is to enhance national security by ensuring that identity documents used to access federal facilities, nuclear power plants, and board commercial airline flights are more secure and standardized.
The law:
- Requires states to verify applicants’ identity, Social Security number, legal status, and address using official documentation.
- Mandates enhanced security features on IDs and digital storage of application documents.
- Establishes electronic sharing of ID and driver history databases between states.
- Requires IDs to display a standardized format, including a photograph, full name, date of birth, signature, and (as of recent updates) gender marker.
States must issue two versions of IDs:
1.) A Real ID-compliant version (marked with a star), valid for federal purposes.
2.) A non-compliant version (with a disclaimer like “Not for Federal Use”) — still usable for driving or local identification.
Enforcement was repeatedly delayed. The final phase began on May 7, 2025, with full enforcement slated for May 5, 2027.
All 50 states and U.S. territories are now certified as compliant. Starting in 2025, TSA began enforcing Real ID requirements at airport checkpoints.
quips@slrpnk.net 3 hours ago
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 hour ago
I don’t think it is that simple. The people opposing the federal IDs do have a point.
Why would you need a centralized ID and collection of your data if you never take a flight or enter a nuclear power plant?
Distrusting the central government is part of US culture I guess, and seeing the current administration over there, this distrust might well be justified.
So I understand the discussions it apparently kindled, despite coming from a country were centralized federal IDs are mandatory (and me being ok with that).
rhymeswithduck@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
At this point it’s a bit ridiculous if you don’t have one. 20 years is at least three cycles of ID renewals, so people have had plenty of chances to make the switch.
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 55 minutes ago
Sounds like letting it be the decision of the people is a decent compromise.
Either you have a Real ID, or you pay the 45$ additional identification fee if you happen to be going on a domestic flight once in a while. (That’s how I understand it?)
As long as having a Real ID doesn’t become expected in other, everyday dealings…