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vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Eco’s version assumes Stalin’s regime is one of primary fascist regimes in the first place. I dunno about that overview, in the original text it’s clear from the beginning. Either you haven’t read it or you are trying to cheat.

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doben@lemmy.wtf ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Stop making stuff up, it’s time to bring the receipts. Where exactly does “Eco’s version assumes Stalin’s regime is one of primary fascist regimes in the first place”?

Eco treated Stalinism as a seperate, parallel example of totalitarianism, explicitedly not labeling it fascist.

You gotta leave your confused right wing, red fascism narrative behind, if you actually want to understand the world. Maybe start by not being so dishonest.

Some passages from Umberto Eco: Ur-Fascism:

If by totalitarianism one means a regime that subordinates every act of the individual to the state and to its ideology, then both Nazism and Stalinism were true totalitarian regimes.

It was Italian fascism that convinced many European liberal leaders that the new regime was carrying out interesting social reform, and that it was providing a mildly revolutionary alternative to the Communist threat.

Nevertheless, historical priority does not seem to me a sufficient reason to explain why the word fascism became a synecdoche, that is, a word that could be used for different totalitarian movements. This is not because fascism contained in itself, so to speak in their quintessential state, all the elements of any later form of totalitarianism. On the contrary, fascism had no quintessence. Fascism was a fuzzy totalitarianism, a collage of different philosophical and political ideas, a beehive of contradictions.

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- vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  He’s providing a list of fascist regimes in that essay, with Stalin’s included. Stop lying.
  
  And read the quotes you’ve already provided, they are good.
  
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  - doben@lemmy.wtf ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Only that he doesn‘t. And I don‘t.
    
    Your pattern: Make stuff up > act all incensed for being confronted with your bullshit > use personal attacks and accusations of lying > make stuff up again.
    
    Either you now provide the sourcing and the quotes of what you keep yapping about or I‘ll consider you a bot, because you‘re acting like one.
    
    Bring the receipts.
    
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